[bksvol-discuss] Re: Feeling like a fool!
- From: "Lynn I" <lynnskyi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 20:50:48 -0600
Hi Valerie!
You do not need a medical doctor per se to provide your certification of
disability. Certain other professionals can do this, as well.
Below is the language from Bookshare's Proof of Disability Form which you
can find at:
http://www.bookshare.org/assets/docs/Individual_Proof_of_Disability.doc
block quote
Proof of Disability
Have the Proof of Disability section filled in and signed by a qualified
professional in the field of disabilities services, education, medicine or
psychology. This professional must be a recognized expert who attests to
the physical basis of the visual, perceptual, or other physical disability
that limits the applicant's use of standard print.
Appropriate certifying experts may differ for different disabilities. In
the case of blindness and visual impairments, an appropriate certifier may
be a physician, ophthalmologist, or optometrist; in the case of a perceptual
disability, a neurologist, learning disability specialist (a teacher with
this type of certification is an example), or psychologist with a background
in disabilities may be the most qualified certifying professional. A social
worker with direct knowledge of your circumstances or a federal or state
agency that maintains registries of qualified people with disabilities for
benefits purposes may provide certification. If you are a college or
university student, your school's Disability Student Services staff may
provide certification.
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HTH
Blessings.
Lynnsky
----- Original Message -----
From: "Valerie Maples" <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:37 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Feeling like a fool!
Count me in on wanting to preview our end-product!
I would likely technically qualify for a membership with my
arthritis, carpal tunnel and dyslexia, but I have no one to certify
me since I have no health insurance and thus no regular doctor. If I
could see my work completed, I could do a better job submitting my
proofs and my scans.
Valerie
On 11 01, 2009, at 8:29 PM, Bob wrote:
> Valerie, I totally agree with you. For some time, I have been
> lobbying for some way for us to run our books through the converter
> before submitting it.
>
> I don't care so much what the tools do as long as I know what they
> do, (I hate surprises and wasted time).
>
> Bob
>
> "We know the future will outlast all of us, but I believe that all
> of us will live on in the future we make,"
> Senator Edward M. Kennedy
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie Maples"
> <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 8:12 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Feeling like a fool!
>
>
>> Try #2; first one vanished into cyberspace. Frowns.
>>
>> And here-in lies a huge problem. if I am not a member, how would
>> I know it had not kept my italics and bold? there should be a way
>> for us to see the final product if we choose to view it for errors
>> in the "stripping process. How do you begin to report a problem
>> when it is massive amounts of text altered. In this case I was
>> the proofreader and I have looked at my text and TONS of italics
>> were stripped.
>>
>> I have to get Nichole to bed, but I must say one of my biggest
>> gripes is that there appears no way to preserve a table of
>> contents for sighted readers. Accessible to all is not remotely
>> accessible to kids with visual discrimination problems. Kids who
>> need the most support in developing their literacy skills like the
>> very early skill of locating something on a TOC are never going to
>> find page numbers with the number only one space after the chapter
>> title. It is easy to say your software makes adjustments, but
>> the two tools for students, Don Johnston Read Out Loud BookShare
>> edition or XML are not configurable to these ends, not to mention
>> communication device users like Nichole. These kids cannot
>> search and find independently, especially not more cognitively
>> impaired or severely physically handicapped kids.
>>
>> I like that XML has some kind of page delimiter, But neither
>> format appears to retain our bracketed text alerting the reader
>> that pictures are missing or a page is blank. Only a number with
>> no space or notification. Very confusing to kids who are already
>> struggling readers...
>>
>> Enough for now... I will lick my wounds and know little of what
>> i have submitted remotely resembles the finished product.
>>
>> Valerie
>>
>>
>> On 11 01, 2009, at 7:13 PM, Mayrie ReNae wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Valerie,
>>>
>>> Your italics should have been preserved. This particular issue
>>> needs to be reported.
>>>
>>> I'm sorry that you didn't know that everything would be left
>>> justified. I thought you knew that. The paragraph set up is
>>> supposed to be
>>> determined by the reader of the book and his or her chosen adaptive
>>> software. XML files will have a blank line between paragraphs,
>>> but if you
>>> want that blank line to be noted in the daisy or braille file, it
>>> needs to
>>> be replased with three asterisks.
>>>
>>> Italics should be kept by bookshare's tools, and reported if they
>>> haven't been. Bold should be kept by bookshare's conversion
>>> tools, and
>>> reported if it hasn't been. But page set up adaptations have always
>>> disappeared. I wish we'd somehow been more clear in explaining
>>> that to you.
>>> I'm sorry you wasted time and energy. I'm so sorry.
>>>
>>> Mayrie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie
>>> Maples
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 4:55 PM
>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Cc: Pavi Mehta
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Feeling like a fool!
>>>
>>> Okay, I admit, I am a jump in kind of gal and try really hard to
>>> absorb
>>> everything I can and learn as I go how to get better. Because i
>>> am not a
>>> member, I had never seen what my proofs or scans look like after
>>> they leave
>>> me. After comments this week that finally sunk in, I asked
>>> Nichole if she
>>> minded if we downloaded a book I had proofed so we could compare
>>> the two
>>> versions.
>>>
>>> We chose Mosaic by Amy Grant because of the heavy formatting due to
>>> lyrics, interjected reflections and other strong visual elements.
>>> Well, let me tell you, all those hours of formatting were all for
>>> naught and
>>> there is no way someone can tell what are lyrics, where chorus and
>>> refrain
>>> switch or anything else. It did not even retain many of my italic
>>> sections.
>>>
>>> Why is this? A child with visual discrimination issues will be
>>> totally lost
>>> because paragraphing is not apparent and without style transitions
>>> you
>>> cannot differentiate form.
>>>
>>> My heart is broken that all my work was wasted and I want to know
>>> why
>>> virtually everything is lost, all is left justified, and even if
>>> a whole
>>> page I submit is appropriately in italics, maybe only one or two
>>> lines
>>> appeared in italics. There is no rhyme or reason I can see to the
>>> capricious application and want to know how to present so visual
>>> readers
>>> are not lost in endless, non-differentiated text. why even
>>> bother with RTF
>>> then?
>>>
>>> A very disappointed Valerie
>>>
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