[bksvol-discuss] Re: Essays and copyright - Ideas and Beliefs of the Victorians -- need Claire's finding

  • From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 09:14:34 -0500 (EST)

Carrie, Claire, or any other Bookshare admin person,
What was the upshot of this?  Do I go on and validate this book, or reject
it as not having a copyright?
Tracy


> Claire asked me to respond to this thread, and to be blunt, I have no idea
> what to say.  I thought that a book had to have the word 'copyright' or
> the c-circle symbol to be copyrighted, but there are so many exceptions,
> it boggles the mind.  A week ago, someone else wrote about a copyright
> page that said the book was copyrighted in full accordance of the law, but
> the page neglected to mention a copyright holder or date. Arrgghhh!  Does
> having an ISBN automatically mean the book is copyrighted, even if the
> book doesn't mention the copyright?  I don't think so...  Let me see if I
> can get the Bookshare powers that be to answer both these questions.
>
> Sorry I can't be of more help right now.  Maybe next week, I can! Carrie
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Tracy Carcione <carcione@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Friday, February 1, 2008 5:41:16 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Essays and copyright - Ideas and Beliefs of
>     the Victorians -- need Claire's finding
>
>
> Guido,
> I
> concur.
> It
> sort
> of
> looks
> like
> a
> copyright,
> but
> it
> doesn't
> say
> so.
> I
> haven't
> rejected
> it
> yet,
> but
> I
> don't
> yet
> see
> how
> I
> can
> do
> otherwise.
> Lots
> of
> books
> say
> "published
> by
> so-and-so",
> and
> that's
> not
> the
> copyright
> at
> all.
> Tracy
>
>>
> This
> is
> a
> toughy,
> and
> may
> require
> visual
> examination
> of
> the
> book
> and/or
> a
>>
> decision
> by
> Claire.
> I
> suspect
> copyright
> is
> by
> E.
> P.
> Dutton
> in
> 1966
> After
>>
> all,
> who
> else's
> Rights
> are
> All
> Reserved?
>>
>>
> "First
> published
> 1966
> by
> E.
> P.
> Dutton
> &
> Co.,
> Inc.
>>
> All
> rights
> reserved."
>>
>>
> The
> above
> looks
> like
> a
> copyright
> statement
> in
> old-fashioned
> disguise
> to
>>
> me.
>>
>>
> Guido
>>
>>
> Guido
> Dante
> Corona
>>
> IBM
> Research,
>>
> Human
> Ability
> &
> Accessibility
> Center,
>
> (HA&AC)
>>
> Austin
> Tx.
>>
> Phone:
> 512.
> 838.
> 9735.
>>
> Email:
> guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>
> Web:
> http://www.ibm.com/able
>>
>>
> ".
> .
> .
> Maybe
> it
> was
> only
> those
> who
> were
> most
> certain
> they
> were
> right
> who
>>
> were
> guaranteed
> to
> be
> wrong.
> And
> that
> maybe,
> just
> maybe,
> those
> who
>>
> questioned
> the
> most
> were
> in
> the
> end
> those
> who
> came
> closest
> to
> being
> wise."
>>
> [David
> Poyer,
> The
> Command]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> "Tracy
> Carcione"
> <carcione@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>
> Sent
> by:
> bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
> 01/31/2008
> 09:56
> AM
>>
> Please
> respond
> to
>>
> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>>
> To
>>
> bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
> cc
>>
>>
> Subject
>>
> [bksvol-discuss]
> Essays
> and
> copyright
> -
> Ideas
> and
> Beliefs
> of
> the
>>
> Victorians
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Unless
> I
> am
> advised
> otherwise,
> tomorrow
> I
> will
> reject
> "Ideas
> and
> Beliefs
>>
> of
> the
> Victorians"
> for
> lack
> of
> copyright.
> I
> will
> paste
> the
> most
> pertinent
>>
> info
> from
> the
> title
> page
> at
> the
> end
> of
> this
> message,
> but
> none
> of
> it
> says
>>
> anything
> about
> copyright.
> It's
> a
> collection
> of
> essays,
> many
> of
> which
> are
>>
> quite
> old,
> but
> I
> still
> think
> the
> book
> needs
> a
> copyright.
> Right?
>>
> Tracy
>>
>>
>>
> This
> paperback
> edition
> of
>>
> "IDEAS
> AND
> BELIEFS
> OF
> THE
> VICTORIANS"
>>
> First
> published
> 1966
> by
> E.
> P.
> Dutton
> &
> Co.,
> Inc.
>>
> All
> rights
> reserved.
> Printed
> in
> the
> U.S.A.
>>
>>
> Reprinted
> by
> special
> arrangement
> with
> the
> British
>>
> Broadcasting
> Corporation
> and
> the
> individual
> contributors.
>>
>>
> Published
> simultaneously
> in
> Canada
> by
> Clarke,
>>
> Irwin
> and
> Company
> Limited,
> Toronto
> and
> Vancouver.
>>
>>
> IDEAS
> AND
> BELIEFS
> OF
> THE
> VICTORIANS
> was
> first
> published
> in
> 1949.
>>
>>
>>
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