[bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses
- From: Scott Rains <scottr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 09:02:03 -0700
Jill,
The manual is in revision. It remains to be determined how much detail will end
up in the manual.
Over the next three months staff will be partnering with volunteers to create
entirely new resources while updated existing ones. You may have seen reference
to a Bookshare Glossary project and research into "best answers" from years
past on the discussion lists. Ellipses, British punctuation, nested tables, and
various other recurring mysteries are part of what we plan to address through
these and other projects.
Scott Rains
Benetech Fellow, Bookshare Volunteer Department
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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jill O'Connell [jillocon@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 7:32 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses
I wonder what the braille transcriber's manual would have done in the book I am
proofing where there is a quotation mark before the elipsis; leaving a space
before the first elipsis would really look strange. I apologize for bringing
this up again but I do think for the sake of new scanners and proofreaders that
the manual should clarify.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mayrie ReNae<mailto:mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:58 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses
Hi Bob and everyone,
I have just looked at my copy of the braille transcription manual. It has a
copyright date of 1994, so may have changed since. However, it does state that
spaces should appear both before and after an elipsis, except when the elipsis
is followed by a punctuation mark, which should follow the elipsis without a
space.
This formatting was not the case when I learned braille, and I apologize if my
previous understanding of what was correct and up-to-date has misled anyone.
The formatting of a space, three periods without spaces, and another space does
not seem to make Bookshare's braille translator barf. Thank goodness!
Again, I'm sorry that my early learning of braille and my passing on of that
obviously outdated knowledge has inconvenienced anyone.
Mayrie
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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob W
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:45 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses
I know we've had this discussion before, but I don't remember the outcome. It's
really up to the Braille users since it effects them more.
Without further direction, I would put spaces on both sides of the elipsis.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: EVAN REESE<mailto:mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:39 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses
I think it would look a bit strange if you were to put a space after the
ellipsis but not before it. So if you're not going to put a space in front, you
shouldn't put one after it either.
Evan
----- Original Message -----
From: Lori Castner<mailto:loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:12 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Ellipses
I know this topic has come up many times, but I'm confused again.
In the latest issue of the Volunteer Manual it states not to place a space
before the first dot and to remove all spaces between the three dots, but it
does not state what to do after the third dot if the ellipsis occurs in the
middle of a sentence as it often does.
Ellipses are frequently used in mid-sentence in dialog, and I want to be sure
to handle them correctly.
Thanks.
Lori C.
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