[bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses
- From: "Jill O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 08:17:46 -0700
Thank you since that's what I did.
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From: Mayrie ReNae
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 8:05 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses
Hi Jill,
The braille transcription manual that I have says that an elipsis should be
spaced as if it were a word. That means that when it is between words, spaces
should surround it. And when punctuation appears on either side of the
elipsis, the punctuation should not be separated from the elipsis by a space,
just as with any word and punctuation mark. So, if we want braille readers to
be reading properly represented braille, we should space or not accordingly
around the elipsis.
Mayrie
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jill O'Connell
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 7:32 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses
I wonder what the braille transcriber's manual would have done in the book I
am proofing where there is a quotation mark before the elipsis; leaving a space
before the first elipsis would really look strange. I apologize for bringing
this up again but I do think for the sake of new scanners and proofreaders that
the manual should clarify.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mayrie ReNae
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:58 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses
Hi Bob and everyone,
I have just looked at my copy of the braille transcription manual. It has
a copyright date of 1994, so may have changed since. However, it does state
that spaces should appear both before and after an elipsis, except when the
elipsis is followed by a punctuation mark, which should follow the elipsis
without a space.
This formatting was not the case when I learned braille, and I apologize if
my previous understanding of what was correct and up-to-date has misled anyone.
The formatting of a space, three periods without spaces, and another space
does not seem to make Bookshare's braille translator barf. Thank goodness!
Again, I'm sorry that my early learning of braille and my passing on of
that obviously outdated knowledge has inconvenienced anyone.
Mayrie
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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob W
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:45 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses
I know we've had this discussion before, but I don't remember the outcome.
It's really up to the Braille users since it effects them more.
Without further direction, I would put spaces on both sides of the elipsis.
Bob
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From: EVAN REESE
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:39 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses
I think it would look a bit strange if you were to put a space after the
ellipsis but not before it. So if you're not going to put a space in front, you
shouldn't put one after it either.
Evan
----- Original Message -----
From: Lori Castner
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:12 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Ellipses
I know this topic has come up many times, but I'm confused again.
In the latest issue of the Volunteer Manual it states not to place a
space before the first dot and to remove all spaces between the three dots, but
it does not state what to do after the third dot if the ellipsis occurs in the
middle of a sentence as it often does.
Ellipses are frequently used in mid-sentence in dialog, and I want to
be sure to handle them correctly.
Thanks.
Lori C.
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