Hi Bob and everyone, I have just looked at my copy of the braille transcription manual. It has a copyright date of 1994, so may have changed since. However, it does state that spaces should appear both before and after an elipsis, except when the elipsis is followed by a punctuation mark, which should follow the elipsis without a space. This formatting was not the case when I learned braille, and I apologize if my previous understanding of what was correct and up-to-date has misled anyone. The formatting of a space, three periods without spaces, and another space does not seem to make Bookshare's braille translator barf. Thank goodness! Again, I'm sorry that my early learning of braille and my passing on of that obviously outdated knowledge has inconvenienced anyone. Mayrie _____ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:45 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses I know we've had this discussion before, but I don't remember the outcome. It's really up to the Braille users since it effects them more. Without further direction, I would put spaces on both sides of the elipsis. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: EVAN REESE <mailto:mentat3@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:39 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses I think it would look a bit strange if you were to put a space after the ellipsis but not before it. So if you're not going to put a space in front, you shouldn't put one after it either. Evan ----- Original Message ----- From: Lori Castner <mailto:loralee.castner@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 1:12 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Ellipses I know this topic has come up many times, but I'm confused again. In the latest issue of the Volunteer Manual it states not to place a space before the first dot and to remove all spaces between the three dots, but it does not state what to do after the third dot if the ellipsis occurs in the middle of a sentence as it often does. Ellipses are frequently used in mid-sentence in dialog, and I want to be sure to handle them correctly. Thanks. Lori C.