[bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses

  • From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:43:39 -0700

I ment put the periods in without spaces. In the middle of a sentence, if I understand the quagmire properly, the three periods are surrounded by spaces. I don't want to create any more confusion than there already is.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 3:39 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses



I don't understand why Braille displays would be programmed to display the ellipses properly if the three periods are without spaces, unless the people programming them didn't know what they were doing. If it is this confusing, then just put them in without spaces. Who's gonna argue with you, and they will come out in Braille correctly. If it were cut and dried, then I would say put in what you are supposed to, but reading this list so far, this whole discussion reminds me of nothing so much as a quagmire.

I wouldn't worry about warning people about em dashes and ellipses. Well, I was gonna say that they are all grownups, but I guess I can't. Hmmm. I'll let someone else give you feedback on that one, as I can't seem able to make up my mind about it. <grin>

----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 3:25 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Ellipses



I'm not sure it solves the problems, because the tree
dots with spaces in between, while correct for print,
may be annoying for Bralle or sound--or for e-texts.
If I remember correctly, and I'm sure Tony will
correct me if I'm nis-remembering  smile-- PG deletes
the spaces between the dots.

So I think we need to know what bookshare prefers.
smile  And I'd like that infor soon, because the book
I'm almost finished with uses ellipses *a lot!* Both
with the period at the end of the sentence (though I
really don't know why, in the context) and without to
indicate an unfinished thought at the end of a phrase.
This book also has *a lot* of em dashes. I wonder if I
should put that info in the synopsis to warn people.
It's a wonderful book and when I post that I'm
uploading it I will heartily recommend it--I know we
can't do that in synopses--but maybe if ellipses and
em dashes are annoying to readers they should be
warned that the book has a lot of them.

Cindy
Cindy

--- Amy Goldring Tajalli
<agoldringtajalli@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi all,

I cannot find my Elements in Style (Funk and White -
if memory serves) but my MLA Style Sheet  "For
ellipsis within a sentence, use three . . . spaced
periods, being careful to leave a space before the
first period.  Q uotations that are complete
sentences should end with periods even though matter
that was within the original may have been omitted.
To indicate ellipsis after the conclusion of a
complete sentence, use three spaced periods in
addition to the sentence period. . . . "  There is
more but if anyone wants it but it regards poetic
lines and paragraphs etcetera and I am omitting it
here.  If you need it give a holler and and I'll
copy it as the Style Sheet may not be readily
available - I haven't looked in years. This should
still be the standard and most other style sheets I
have seen hide the relevant material in the midst of
lots of unnecessary wordage.

 I hope this solves the problems.

Amy
Still looking for her majesty's cats.



----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula and James Muysenberg"
<outofsightlife@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Bksvol" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 6:17 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Ellipses



> I know an ellipsis is three periods together, but I've forgotten whether > it is supposed to have a space before or after it. I know there are > different rules, depending on whether the ellipsis occurs by itself, or > within a sentence. Would someone please refresh my memory? > > Thanks, > Paula > > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. >


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