[bksvol-discuss] Cleaning up books
- From: "Kaitlyn Hill" <Kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 20:36:45 -0700
IN my experience of validating and submitting most time the system seems to
give a better percentage than rank spelling does. I am assuming it may have
a much bigger list than we do.
Kaitlyn
Healing Practitioner
"The cost of a thing is the amount of what I call life, which is required to
be exchanged for it immediately or in the long run."
Henry Thoreau
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I agree with you, for sure! I've seen discussion about this on the list
before, and it shouldn't be the validator's problem to fix slopppy
errors that the scanner could have repaired themselves. I really
appreciate the people who have taken the time to clean up the scans
before submitting them. I know I have spent much time cleaning things
up before submitting them because I figure I wouldn't ant to read a book
that doesn't make sense or has all sorts of obvious errors in it either.
So, it would be a good idea to find some sort of criteria for accepting
books that's that's a good and fair evaluation of the material. I'm
certain humans would have to be involved since sometimes what the
computer thinks are errors are not. (smile!)
Charlene
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Hi Charlene:
When I validate a book and I see that it is under 98 percent I will not
spend my time trying to rehabilitate it. I believe it a waste of my time
and
it would be faster rescanning it.
However, I do look through the list of mispelled words to see if the
errors
are due to dialect, medical terms, foreign words or other intentional
misspelling by the author. But when I see single letters appearing 50
times
then I know this book is beyond repair. But to ensure that my assumption
is
correct I also read several pages randomly to see if the sentences are
choppy. There are times that single letters are part of the header and
therefore can be repaired.
So as you can see I do evaluate every book on an individual basis. In my
opinion, validators should not be afraid to reject a book if the
quality is poor. It has taken me some time and many hours of
rehabilitating
books to get to this point, but now I have no qualms in rejecting a book
of
poor quality. And as I explained above I don't mean a book with
intentional
dialect.
Grace
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From: "Charlene" <caota@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 6:47 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: reward for upgrading software
> You still have to evaluate some things on an individuat basis. If
> there are a lot of medical or scientific terms then the percentage
> will be very low because those words aren't in the spelling
> dictionary. Also, if an author has deliberately used bad English or
> invented words combined words and such, as a part of the way they have
> chosen to write their book, then the percentage is going to be low and
> it isn't right to make corrections in those situations. To just
> discard a book absed on that percentage isn't a very good idea.
> Further evaluation must be done to check for the reson why the
> percentage might be lower than 99%.
>
> Charlene
>
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>
>
> Take this as a personal opinion. I think anything below 98% should be
> poor and 98 to 99 % fair. These are doable percentages with today's
> software. Anything with 99% and above can be excellent. But, for
> instance, The Abortion Myth was listed as being "excellent" when
> submitted. It had a rating of 97.5 and contained 228 single
occurances
> of
> words which I could not figure out. I got it up to 99.5 by the time I
> sent
> it in for the new books page. That last 5% was made up of the 228
> individual one-time occurances of words. I did not reject it outright
> since it is not a light reading piece of fiction. If it were, I would
> have
> rejected.
>
> The real issue here which noone is interested in addressing because it
> is personally messy is that many of these poor scans come from repeat
> folks. If bookshare staff does nothing to curb it, we validators are
> going
> to have to send a stronger message by rejecting books.
>
>
> At 05:06 AM 9/17/2005, you wrote:
>
>>Elizabeth and others
>>
>>I want your feedback on something. Keeping in mind the caveats
>>mentioned about ranked spelling, below what threshhold would a book
>>become fair and below what number would a so-called fair book become
>>poor and hence rejected?
>>
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