Hi Jake and Cindy, Yes, I did forward the message along to Patricia, I will have to look up her new address again since the old Comcast address is no longer valid. Katie Hill Expand your wealth at: www.838gold.com "Come to the edge" "We can't; we will fall" "Come to the edge" "We can't; We're afraid" "Come to the edge" And they came. And he pushed them. And they flew. - Anonomous -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jake Brownell Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 5:18 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: CIndy's books being released Cindy, Re: Patricia Kepler - You have one of SEVERAL books she validates and Gustavo kicks back for copyright verification. The person who submits these books apparently doesn't understand how to determine a copyright and neither does Patricia, as she validates them without correcting the submitter's mistake. So, I doubt you'll ever be able to get her involved in fixing that error unless she joins the list or someone communicates with her directly and tells her she is doing it incorrectly. Jake ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 7:10 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] CIndy's books being released >I repeat--the books I have taken are books are ones > that people were giving up on--that they said needed > sight--or page breaks. If anyone here said they wanted > to Tammy Tell Me True I didn't see it and would have > let them. > > O.K. I will release all the books I have except the > one I'm working on and Transit of Venus, since I'm > about halfway through that. I suppose if they don't > get re-scanned or if people post that they can't find > the page breaks and the books need sighted eyes I can > take them again--or if they aren't being validated and > aren't on any part of Marissa's List I can validate > and submit them, although then the original submitter > won't get the credit. > > re Oklahoma Sweetheart--I was hoping that Patricia > Kepler would post or contact me because the only > reason that Gustavo rejected that was because it was > missing copyright info--so presumably her validation > was o.k. > > It's true that I didn't do the books on a first-in > first-out, but I did more recently mentioned books > that were mentioned because the others I had had been > on the list so long. It's true that some, as Jake > said, were first put up in 2005--I took them because > they hadn't been taken for about 6 months, so I did't > think there was any hurry for them and worked on more > recent problem books first. I also supplied missing > pages for books people were currently working on or > supplied page breaks before validating some of the > older problem books. As I said, I didn't think there > was any hurry for them. I just didn't want them to get > lost. > > Gerald, wasn't it you who rescanned some last time > that I had had--but they still had problems because of > the shape of the copy and needed to be validated by > me--at least one or two of them. Someone else took > one, I remember. But maybe I'm wrong and it wasn't you > but was someone else. smile. > > O.K. Here goes my release. > > Cindy > > --- Gerald Hovas <GeraldHovas@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Cindy, >> >> I agree with Jake. Several months is way too long >> to be hanging on to a >> book to decide whether or not to reject it or get >> around to fixing it. A >> book might be in the collection now if it was >> rejected and the submitter >> cared enough about the book to rescan it once they >> got their rejection >> notice. >> >> Before you try to make an argument that the >> submitter would probably not >> rescan the book, I do remember someone other than >> the submitter saying once >> that they had Tammy Tell Me True and would rescan it >> as soon as they could >> get a chance. Of course, they haven't had that >> chance because you've been >> sitting on the book for 7 and a half months. I >> wonder how many of the other >> books you have checked out might also have been in >> the collection if you >> weren't keeping others from validating them or >> rescanning them because they >> can see that they are out for validation. >> >> I also think that if the books you are fixing up are >> taking so long that you >> can't get around to fixing 15 of them in the first 6 >> months that you have >> had them checked out, then the books you've been >> working on should have been >> rejected because they are taking way too long to fix >> up. Either that, or >> you're guilty of the same thing that you want >> Gustavo to change, not >> processing the books in a first in first out order. >> >> Please go through your books and either reject or >> release all but the >> handful which you are most interested in validating. >> Yes, I know you just >> offered to release any books that someone asks you >> to release, but you're >> forgetting that most volunteers don't subscribe to >> the list, so they would >> not be aware of the situation or your offer, and >> they should have a chance >> to work on the books, too. >> >> As Jake said, you do a lot for the volunteers, and I >> don't know what we >> would do without you, but you can't save every poor >> submission. >> >> Gerald >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >> Behalf Of Cindy >> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 1:36 AM >> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] books Cindy has out >> >> >> Oh, dear. Yes, the date got away from me and the >> books were released--and you have eyes that are too >> sharp. >> >> In my defense--the books I have are books that >> people >> were going to reject or books that need sight. Or >> books that were sitting on the download list for a >> very long time and rather than have them deleted I >> thought I'd look at them. I haven't been downloading >> books since except one that is very worthwhile but >> was >> in such bad shape that it was going to be >> rejected--and I'd spent quite a bit of time >> paginating >> for the submitter. >> >> Some of the books may not be worthwhile saving--If >> Tammy is a mess I don't think it will be worthwhile >> for me to fix. Since I'm not fond of westerns, that >> may be the case of one or two others--and I will >> reject. >> >> I have taken two books of Amber's that no one wanted >> and that sound like they woule be good books for the >> collection. The one I'm working on now, and perhaps >> I >> should have done others that I've kept longer first, >> is over 900 pages missing a lot of words but I >> seriously doubt anyone would re-scan it and even if >> they did if it wold come out any better because of >> its >> size and the way it's bound. I do hope people will >> read it when it gets into the collection because it >> is >> marvelous in its history and very readable. >> >> My theory at the time was that rather than having >> the >> books sit on the download list or be deleted because >> no one was taking them, I would and that would keep >> the list small. I would love to know how many of the >> books on your or what used to be Rui's rescan list >> have been rescanned. But after a book is rescanned >> it >> then has to be revaldiated. I did some time ago >> release some books that someone rescanned but the >> scan, except for one, came out badly because of the >> print and I had to validate it anyone. >> >> BTW, After finishing the book I'm working on, >> Memoirs >> of Cleopatra, which I highly recommend, I plan to >> finish Transit of Venus, which I now own, and then >> will try Prince of Sinners. I do not have that book >> and so if the scan is pretty bad I'll release it, >> but >> all of Oppenheimer's,it seems, are on PG, and >> perhaps >> we can get them from there. They are rare classics. >> >> Most of the books I have are txt without page >> breaks, >> and yes, some are classics and some seem to be >> important. Since you were kind enough to post the >> list, if anyone wants me to release one of them I'll >> be happy to--either for someone else to validate or >> if >> someone promises to rescan. The books I've taken are >> books, with the possible exception of Oklahoma >> Sweetheart and Tammy Tell Me True, and possibly the >> westerns, that I really think should be in the >> collection and that people have said, as I said >> before, need sighted help. >> I know a lot of members really enjoy westerns, which >> is why I took them to salvage--they may not even be >> that bad--maybe they just need pagination. I haven't >> yet had a chance to look. >> >> Cindy >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam >> protection around >> http://mail.yahoo.com >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to >> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject >> line. 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