[bksvol-discuss] Re: Chapter positions

  • From: Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2012 10:37:12 -0400

The point about protecting chapter headings with a blank line is that when the chapter heading is at the beginning of a page it might be stripped out by the conversion tools. That applies to anything at the beginning of the page whether it is a chapter heading, a page number or the first line of the text. If you add a blank line it is the blank line that gets stripped out. If the chapter heading appears in the middle of the page with text both before and after it then protecting it is not an issue. I don't know why the three asterisks are being advised unless it is to indicate a blank line before the chapter heading. The point of the three asterisks is that blank lines are stripped out by the conversion tools and sometimes there is reason to retain the blank lines. Since the conversion tools are going to strip them out whether we want them to or not then we have come up with a symbol that signifies a blank line and that is the three asterisks. In books in which I have seen chapter headings in the middle of the page there is certainly a blank line or several blank lines before it, but I don't necessarily see why they should be retained. The most common reason for retaining them is that they often indicate a passage of time or a change of scene. In the case of a new chapter beginning the chapter heading itself does that job and I don't see why it would be confusing to have the chapter heading start on the very next line without the asterisks. Whatever the case, though, the asterisks are not there to protect the chapter headings.

On 10/3/2012 7:23 PM, Martha Rafter wrote:
Yes, but we need to put a blank line before and after chapter headings to âprotectâ them, or thatâs what weâve been told, because the bookshare tools might harm them in some way. This is the very first time Iâve heard that we need to put in 3 asterisks. So, is this a new thing for us to do or not?
Marty
*From:* Sue Stevens <mailto:siss52@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 03, 2012 12:26 PM
*To:* bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Chapter positions
It is my understanding that the conversion tool eliminates all blank lines, so the asterisks are to retain blank lines, that is, lines with no text. If nothing was put on the line, the tool would eliminate it.
Sue S.
*From:* Martha Rafter <mailto:mlhr@xxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 03, 2012 8:27 AM
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*Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Chapter positions
Hi Valerie and other friends,
Putting three asterisks is a new thing, yes. Also, I thought that we were supposed to âprotectâ chapter headings with a blank line before and after the headings. What are we supposed to do now?
Marty
*From:* Valerie Maples <mailto:vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 02, 2012 8:19 PM
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*Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Chapter positions
Is the three asterisks a new thing? I was not aware of that and did not do it in my Kay Tracey paperbacks. I hate getting things wrong! I can fix it while I still have the book, if so; I think I remember which one it was...
Valerie

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*From:* Madeleine Linares <Madeleinel@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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*Sent:* Tue, October 2, 2012 2:52:03 PM
*Subject:* [bksvol-discuss] Re: Chapter positions

Hi Laura,

Vivian is correct, please leave it as is and add the three asterisks!

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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Chapter positions

I also had one where the chapter started on a middle of the page, but it was that way in the book. What I did was separate it by using the 3 asterisks.
Vivian



At 10:32 AM 10/2/2012 -0400, you wrote:
>I have been working on a book that is almost complete however, I have an
>issue with Chapter positioning. The book is in Parts broken down into
>chapters. The chapters sometimes begin within a page and not on a new
>page. Not sure if this is the correct positioning per the print copy
>because it is not available on either Amazon Peek or Google Books. Do I
>move the chapters to the top of a new page or leave as is?
>
>book is Dr. Cyclops by Henry Kuttner
>
>
>Thanks.
>
>Laura

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