[bksvol-discuss] Re: Carrie Books (Re: Just Submitted)

  • From: "Lora" <loravara@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 21:57:04 -0600

I'd like to agree.  I've seen two messages in the past month from you, Jake,
that made me want to cringe, and I wasn't even the one under the spotlight.
We all need to remember that we're all volunteers, and every one of us will
have a different approach to contributing to Bookshare, and a different
philosophy of what is most needed or desired in the collection.  I believe
there is room for all of us.
Except the Fair rated books.  OK, I have my biases, too.  <Smile>
Seriously, though, we all need to remember to exercise a little kindness in
expressing our opinions, and if you really have a problem with someone,
perhaps raise it in private Email so that it feels a little less


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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of siss52
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 4:23 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Carrie Books (Re: Just Submitted)

Hi Jake,
As one outspoken person to another, it does seem that when you are singling
out an individual, it would be best to write that person offlist.  Your
messages, like mine, tend to be blunt.  <smile>
Sue S.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jake Brownell <mailto:jabrown@xxxxxxxxx>  
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 3:03 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Carrie Books (Re: Just Submitted)

Hi Carrie,
I never meant, intended, etc. anything of the sort that you don't volunteer
When I said "Thanks as always for all your volunteering Carrie!" it was in
ernest not in sarcasm or anything like that. Nor, was my intension to
complain. Nor to suggest you don't validate enough.
Like you said, how would we know that you
* Keep the hardest books to validate
* Keep track of your old books and self validate when necessary
* Do other validations (after all you said yourself that Gustavo is the only
other one who knows).
Until you wrote those three down, there's not really any way I could have
learned it, so I'm not sure how much more investigation I could have done.
I did investigate to the best of my ability, checking how many books you had
submitted on the download page, how many people seemed to be interested in,
and the general trend of whether or not your books get validated quickly. It
seemed that the list was just growing and growing. And, it seemed that lots
of the nonfiction books were not going anywhere fast, again, I did not know
that your intensions included processing them at a later time if they had
not been done.
I'm sorry if you thought my message was intended as an attack or complaint.
It was not. I guess I was attempting to point out that there were lots of
older books that could use some TLC ahead of newer ones. And it's usually
easier to edit with a print copy in hand.
I really just want to see Step 1 have the older books looked at and cleaned
out. Are you sure it was actually empty at one point?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Carrie Karnos <mailto:ckarnos@xxxxxxxxx>  
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 2:33 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Carrie Books (Re: Just Submitted)

Hi Jake,
Whenever I submit a batch of books, I validate the hardest ones myself.  For
example, in that last batch of 13 books, I kept 3 back.  They were a guide
to the White House that had a picture or two on each page (I uploaded the
book to Gustavo this evening), a book on dog training that had pictures and
double columns, and a book on witchcraft with lots of symbols in it.  I put
the easy books on the download list, really I do.
And I'm aware that some of my books linger on the download list.  I keep
track of them, and when a book has lingered for several months, I validate
it myself. In the past week or two, I've validated Goliath by David Harris,
Flower Net by Lisa See and The Fifth Angel by David Wiltse.  They all had
been on the download list for 4 months when I picked them up. I also
validated 5 x-rated books, since there are a lot of volunteers who have
delicate sensibilities.
In short, I do a lot of validating that no one knows about, other than
Gustavo.  So I suggest you do more investigating before you accuse me of not
validating enough.  And while we're at it, in the future, if you have any
other problems with my actions, please email me off-list.  I don't
appreciate you complaining about me in public.

Jake Brownell <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

    Hi Carrie,
Great, but we could really use some help validating some of your submissions
that linger on the download list. Since you have the print books it might be
especially helpful if you could process some of the harder non fiction ones.
Unfortunately just running the book through the highspeed scanner doesn't
produce a book that is at the high end of excellent. While it's true that
your books don't have binding issues, it's still often times necessary to
read through the entire book if you really want a finished product that is
truly excellent quality.
It's also unfortunate that so many of your submissions lately people don't
seem to be interested in. I have noted that your submissions are usually
grabbed right away if people are interested in the books, but otherwise they
are grabbed, released quickly, let expire, or are never downloaded.
For instance currently there are 53 books submitted by you on the download
page, 46 of which have never been downloaded, that's about 87%, and 53/385
total books is about 14% of the download list. Me thinks we need to get some
of them processed before we make step 1 grow even more with bulk
Below I've compiled a list of the books on step 1 done by Carrie so that you
can see if there are any that tickle your fancy.
Thanks as always for all your volunteering Carrie!
Title    Author 
Then Came Heaven         LaVyrle Spencer        
Royal Flash      George Macdonald Fraser        
Flashman in the Great Game       George Macdonald Fraser        
Flashman at the Charge   George Macdonald Fraser        
Black Sunday     Thomas Harris  
Desperate Games  Pierre Boulle  
Black William    Robert Neill   
Legs     William Kennedy        
The Revolution of Hope: Toward a Humanized Technology    Erich Fromm    
Death Comes for the Archbishop   Willa Cather   
Ashes to Ashes   Tami Hoag      
Transitions: Making Sense of Life's Changes      William Bridges        
Managing Transitions: Making the Most of Change  William Bridges        
Maverick: The Success Story Behind the World's Most Unusual Workplace
Richardo Semler 
Post-Capitalist Society  Peter F. Drucker       
Future Scope: Success Strategies for the 1990s and Beyond        Joe Cappo

Rejuvenating the Mature Business: The Competitive Challenge      John M.
Stopford, Charles Baden-Fuller  
Negotiating Rationally   Margaret A. Neale, Max H. Bazerman     
On Negotiating   Mark H. McCormack      
Delivering Quality Service: Balancing Customer Perceptions and Expectations
Leonard L. Berry, A. Parasuraman, Valarie A. Zeithaml   
Mission Critical: The 7 Strategic Traps That Derail Even the Smartest
Companies        Gregory G. Dess, Joseph C. Picken      
World Class Manufacturing: The Lessons of Simplicity Applied     Richard J.
Rethinking the Corporation: The Architecture of Change   Robert M. Tomasko

The Lean Enterprise: Designing and Managing Strategic Processes for
Customer-Winning Performance     Nick Rich, Peter Hines, Dan Dimancescu 
Lean Thinking: Banish Waste and Create Wealth in Your Corporation
Daniel T. Jones, James P. Womack        
It's Not Luck    Eliyahu M. Goldratt    
Competing for the Future         C. K. Prahalad, Gary Hamel     
Co-opetition     Barry J. Nalebuff, Adam M. Brandenburger       
Aiming Higher: 25 Stories of How Companies Prosper by Combining Sound
Management and Social Vision     David Bollier  
Managing by Values       Michael O'Connor, Ken Blanchard        
Parting with Illusions   Vladimir Pozner        
Spring Moon      Bette Bao Lord 
Steppenwolf & Siddhartha (Cliffs Notes)  Carolyn Roberts Welch  
The Dead Sea Cipher      Elizabeth Peters       
The Curse of the Pharaohs        Elizabeth Peters       
The Copenhagen Connection        Elizabeth Peters       
Silhouette in Scarlet    Elizabeth Peters       
Naked Once More  Elizabeth Peters       
Legend in Green Velvet   Elizabeth Peters       
Die for Love     Elizabeth Peters       
Nunquam  Lawrence Durrell       
Prophecy         David Seltzer  
Reader's Digest Condensed Books, Volume 3 1995   The Editors Of The Reader's
Reader's Digest Condensed Books, Volume 5 1995   The Editors Of The Reader's
The Watchmen     Ben Bova       
Time to Come     August Derleth (editor)        
Azazel   Isaac Asimov   
A Kiss Before Dying      Ira Levin      
The Complete Father Brown        G. K. Chesterton       
The Titan Game   Niven Busch    
A Study of History       D. C. Somervell (abridger), Arnold J. Toynbee  
Dreams: Your Magic Mirror with Interpretations by Edgar Cayce    Elsie
Answer to History        Mohammad Reza Pahlavi  


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