I'd like to agree. I've seen two messages in the past month from you, Jake, that made me want to cringe, and I wasn't even the one under the spotlight. We all need to remember that we're all volunteers, and every one of us will have a different approach to contributing to Bookshare, and a different philosophy of what is most needed or desired in the collection. I believe there is room for all of us. Except the Fair rated books. OK, I have my biases, too. <Smile> Seriously, though, we all need to remember to exercise a little kindness in expressing our opinions, and if you really have a problem with someone, perhaps raise it in private Email so that it feels a little less threatening. _____ From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of siss52 Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 4:23 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Carrie Books (Re: Just Submitted) Hi Jake, As one outspoken person to another, it does seem that when you are singling out an individual, it would be best to write that person offlist. Your messages, like mine, tend to be blunt. <smile> Regards, Sue S. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jake Brownell <mailto:jabrown@xxxxxxxxx> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 3:03 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Carrie Books (Re: Just Submitted) Hi Carrie, I never meant, intended, etc. anything of the sort that you don't volunteer A LOT. When I said "Thanks as always for all your volunteering Carrie!" it was in ernest not in sarcasm or anything like that. Nor, was my intension to complain. Nor to suggest you don't validate enough. Like you said, how would we know that you * Keep the hardest books to validate * Keep track of your old books and self validate when necessary * Do other validations (after all you said yourself that Gustavo is the only other one who knows). Until you wrote those three down, there's not really any way I could have learned it, so I'm not sure how much more investigation I could have done. I did investigate to the best of my ability, checking how many books you had submitted on the download page, how many people seemed to be interested in, and the general trend of whether or not your books get validated quickly. It seemed that the list was just growing and growing. And, it seemed that lots of the nonfiction books were not going anywhere fast, again, I did not know that your intensions included processing them at a later time if they had not been done. I'm sorry if you thought my message was intended as an attack or complaint. It was not. I guess I was attempting to point out that there were lots of older books that could use some TLC ahead of newer ones. And it's usually easier to edit with a print copy in hand. I really just want to see Step 1 have the older books looked at and cleaned out. Are you sure it was actually empty at one point? Jake ----- Original Message ----- From: Carrie Karnos <mailto:ckarnos@xxxxxxxxx> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 2:33 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Carrie Books (Re: Just Submitted) Hi Jake, Whenever I submit a batch of books, I validate the hardest ones myself. For example, in that last batch of 13 books, I kept 3 back. They were a guide to the White House that had a picture or two on each page (I uploaded the book to Gustavo this evening), a book on dog training that had pictures and double columns, and a book on witchcraft with lots of symbols in it. I put the easy books on the download list, really I do. And I'm aware that some of my books linger on the download list. I keep track of them, and when a book has lingered for several months, I validate it myself. In the past week or two, I've validated Goliath by David Harris, Flower Net by Lisa See and The Fifth Angel by David Wiltse. They all had been on the download list for 4 months when I picked them up. I also validated 5 x-rated books, since there are a lot of volunteers who have delicate sensibilities. In short, I do a lot of validating that no one knows about, other than Gustavo. So I suggest you do more investigating before you accuse me of not validating enough. And while we're at it, in the future, if you have any other problems with my actions, please email me off-list. I don't appreciate you complaining about me in public. Carrie Jake Brownell <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi Carrie, Great, but we could really use some help validating some of your submissions that linger on the download list. Since you have the print books it might be especially helpful if you could process some of the harder non fiction ones. Unfortunately just running the book through the highspeed scanner doesn't produce a book that is at the high end of excellent. While it's true that your books don't have binding issues, it's still often times necessary to read through the entire book if you really want a finished product that is truly excellent quality. It's also unfortunate that so many of your submissions lately people don't seem to be interested in. I have noted that your submissions are usually grabbed right away if people are interested in the books, but otherwise they are grabbed, released quickly, let expire, or are never downloaded. For instance currently there are 53 books submitted by you on the download page, 46 of which have never been downloaded, that's about 87%, and 53/385 total books is about 14% of the download list. Me thinks we need to get some of them processed before we make step 1 grow even more with bulk submissions. Below I've compiled a list of the books on step 1 done by Carrie so that you can see if there are any that tickle your fancy. Thanks as always for all your volunteering Carrie! Jake Title Author Then Came Heaven LaVyrle Spencer Royal Flash George Macdonald Fraser Flashman in the Great Game George Macdonald Fraser Flashman at the Charge George Macdonald Fraser Black Sunday Thomas Harris Desperate Games Pierre Boulle Black William Robert Neill Legs William Kennedy The Revolution of Hope: Toward a Humanized Technology Erich Fromm Death Comes for the Archbishop Willa Cather Ashes to Ashes Tami Hoag Transitions: Making Sense of Life's Changes William Bridges Managing Transitions: Making the Most of Change William Bridges Maverick: The Success Story Behind the World's Most Unusual Workplace Richardo Semler Post-Capitalist Society Peter F. Drucker Future Scope: Success Strategies for the 1990s and Beyond Joe Cappo Rejuvenating the Mature Business: The Competitive Challenge John M. Stopford, Charles Baden-Fuller Negotiating Rationally Margaret A. Neale, Max H. Bazerman On Negotiating Mark H. McCormack Delivering Quality Service: Balancing Customer Perceptions and Expectations Leonard L. Berry, A. Parasuraman, Valarie A. Zeithaml Mission Critical: The 7 Strategic Traps That Derail Even the Smartest Companies Gregory G. Dess, Joseph C. Picken World Class Manufacturing: The Lessons of Simplicity Applied Richard J. Schonberger Rethinking the Corporation: The Architecture of Change Robert M. Tomasko The Lean Enterprise: Designing and Managing Strategic Processes for Customer-Winning Performance Nick Rich, Peter Hines, Dan Dimancescu Lean Thinking: Banish Waste and Create Wealth in Your Corporation Daniel T. Jones, James P. Womack It's Not Luck Eliyahu M. Goldratt Competing for the Future C. K. Prahalad, Gary Hamel Co-opetition Barry J. Nalebuff, Adam M. Brandenburger Aiming Higher: 25 Stories of How Companies Prosper by Combining Sound Management and Social Vision David Bollier Managing by Values Michael O'Connor, Ken Blanchard Parting with Illusions Vladimir Pozner Spring Moon Bette Bao Lord Steppenwolf & Siddhartha (Cliffs Notes) Carolyn Roberts Welch The Dead Sea Cipher Elizabeth Peters The Curse of the Pharaohs Elizabeth Peters The Copenhagen Connection Elizabeth Peters Silhouette in Scarlet Elizabeth Peters Naked Once More Elizabeth Peters Legend in Green Velvet Elizabeth Peters Die for Love Elizabeth Peters Nunquam Lawrence Durrell Prophecy David Seltzer Reader's Digest Condensed Books, Volume 3 1995 The Editors Of The Reader's Digest Reader's Digest Condensed Books, Volume 5 1995 The Editors Of The Reader's Digest The Watchmen Ben Bova Time to Come August Derleth (editor) Azazel Isaac Asimov A Kiss Before Dying Ira Levin The Complete Father Brown G. K. Chesterton The Titan Game Niven Busch A Study of History D. C. 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