[bksvol-discuss] Re: But they were good to their mothers In-reply-to: <75a7.f3030b3.3899d129@xxxxxxx>
- From: "Larry Lumpkin" <llumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 20:42:55 -0600
Ok Cindy. Great. We'll put it in our next ama zon order.
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I'd proof it eventually, but I have 3 to do first. I'd do it before the 4th
in my pile Cindy
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--- On Sun, 2/14/10, Larry Lumpkin <llumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: Larry Lumpkin <llumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: But they were good to their mothers
> In-reply-to: <75a7.f3030b3.3899d129@xxxxxxx>
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 6:07 PM Hi Debbie. I did a look-up
> on amazon and found this title:
>
> But He Was Good to His Mother : The Lives and Crimes of Jewish
> Gangsters
> (Paperback)
>
>
> Is this the book in question? I might buy it and scan it if anyone
> wants to proof it.
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> On Behalf Of Debby Franson
> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 6:58 PM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] But they were good to their mothers
> In-reply-to:
> <75a7.f3030b3.3899d129@xxxxxxx>
>
> Hi everyone!
>
> A friend sent this to me. Here is some history, and the subject line
> is the title of a book.
>
> But they were good to their mothers !!!!!!
>
>
>
>
>
> This is a side of Jewish history you may have missed.
>
> There are few excuses for the behavior of Jewish gangsters in the
> 1920s and 1930s. The best known Jewish gangsters - Meyer Lansky,
> Bugsy Siegel, Longy Zwillman, Moe Dalitz, David Berman- were
> involved in the numbers rackets, illegal drug dealing, prostitution,
> gambling and loan sharking.
> They were not nice men.
>
> During the rise of American Nazism in the 1930s and when Israel
> was being founded between 1945 and 1948, however, they proved staunch
> defenders of the Jewish people.
>
>
> The roots of Jewish gangsterism lay in the ethnic neighborhoods of
> the Lower East Side; Brownsville,// //Brooklyn//; Maxwell Street in
> Chicago; and Boyle Heights in Los Angeles. Like other newly arrived
> groups in American history, a few Jews who considered themselves
> blocked from respectable professions used crime as a means to "make
> good" economically.
> The market for vice flourished during Prohibition and Jews joined
> with others to exploit the artificial market created by the legal
> bans on alcohol, gambling, paid sex and narcotics.
>
> Few of these men were religiously
> observant. They rarely attended
> services, although they did support congregations financially. They
> did not keep kosher or send their children to day schools.
> However, at crucial
> moments they protected other Jews, in America and around the world.
>
> The 1930s were a period of rampant
> anti-Semitism in America,
> particularly in the Midwest. Father Charles Coughlin, the Radio
> Priest in Detroit, and William Pelley of Minneapolis, among others,
> openly called for Jews to be driven from positions of responsibility,
> if not from the country itself.
>
> Organized Brown Shirts in New York and Silver Shirts in
> Minneapolis outraged and terrorized American Jewry. While the older
> and more respectable Jewish organizations pondered a response that
> would not alienate non-Jewish supporters, others - including a few
> rabbis -asked the gangsters to break up American Nazi rallies.
>
> Historian Robert Rockaway writing in the journal of the American
> Jewish Historical Society, notes that German-American Bund rallies in
> the New York City area posed a dilemma for mainstream Jewish leaders.
> They wanted the rallies stopped, but had no legal grounds on which to
> do so. New York State Judge Nathan Perlman personally contacted Meyer
> Lansky to ask him to disrupt the Bund rallies, with the proviso that
> Lansky's henchmen stop short of killing any Bundists. Enthusiastic
> for the assignment, if disappointed by the restraints, Lansky
> accepted all of Perlman's terms except one: he would take no money
> for the work. Lansky later observed, "I was a Jew and felt for those
> Jews in Europe who were suffering. They were my brothers."
>
> For months, Lansky's workmen effectively broke up one Nazi rally
> after another. As Rockaway notes, "Nazi arms, legs and ribs were
> broken and skulls were cracked, but no one died."
>
> Lansky recalled breaking up a Brown Shirt rally in the Yorkville
> section of Manhattan: "The stage was decorated with a swastika and a
> picture of Hitler. The speakers started ranting. There were only
> fifteen of us, but we went into action. We threw some of them out the
> windows. . .
> . Most of the Nazis panicked and ran out. We chased them and beat
> them up... We wanted to show them that Jews would not always sit back
> and accept insults."
>
> In Minneapolis, William Dudley Pelley organized a Silver Shirt
> Legion to "rescue" America from an imaginary Jewish-Communist
> conspiracy. In Pelle's own words, just as "Mussolini and his Black
> Shirts saved Italy and as Hitler and his Brown Shirts saved Germany,"
> he would save America from Jewish communists. Minneapolis gambling
> czar David Berman confronted Pelley's Silver Shirts on behalf of the
> Minneapolis Jewish community.
>
> Berman learned that Silver Shirts were mounting a rally at Lodge.
> When the Nazi leader called for all the "Jew bastards" in the city to
> be expelled, or worse, Berman and his associates burst in to the room
> and started cracking heads. After ten minutes, they had emptied the
> hall. His suit covered in blood, Berman took the microphone and
> announced, "This is a warning. Anybody who says anything against Jews
> gets the same treatment.
> Only next time it will be worse." After Berman broke up two more
> rallies, there were no more public Silver Shirt meetings in
> Minneapolis.
>
> Jewish gangsters also helped establish Israel after the war. One
> famous example is a meeting between Bugsy Siegel and Reuven Dafne, a
> Haganah emissary, in 1945. Dafne was seeking funds and guns to help
> liberate Palestine from British rule. A mutual friend arranged for the
> two men to meet.
>
> "You mean to tell me Jews are fighting?"
> Siegel asked "You mean fighting
> as in killing?" Dafne answered in the affirmative.
>
> Siegel replied, "I'm with you."
>
> For weeks, Dafne received suitcases filled with $5 and $10 bills
> -- $50,000 in all -- from Siegel.
>
> No one should paint gangsters as heroes.
> They committed acts of great
> evil. But historian Rockaway has presented a textured version of
> Jewish gangster history in a book ironically titled, "But They Were
> Good to their Mothers."
>
> Some have observed that, despite their disreputable behavior, they
> could be good to their people, too. A little interesting bit of
> Jewish history.
>
>
> Debby
>
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