[bksvol-discuss] Re: But they were good to their mothers
- From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 20:11:10 -0800 (PST)
Go ahead, Debbie. You'll be able to do it a lot more quickly than I, and hubby
and I can read it. It's i my branch, supposedly, and he's going to get t
tomorrow. .If it's not there, I'll put in a request for it.
Cindy
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--- On Mon, 2/15/10, Debby Franson <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: Debby Franson <the.bee@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: But they were good to their mothers
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 1:05 PM
> Hi Cindy!
>
> Since you offered first, you can still have "But He Was
> Good to His Mother:
> The Lives and Crimes of Jewish Gangsters", or i'll do
> it. It's entirely up
> to you, but I know you're busy with other books, and I
> don't take on a
> whole stack at once.
>
> Debby
>
> At 08:32 PM 2/14/2010, Cindy wrote
> >I'd proof it eventually, but I have 3 to do first. I'd
> do it before the
> >4th in my pile
> >Cindy
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >--- On Sun, 2/14/10, Larry Lumpkin <llumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Larry Lumpkin <llumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: But they were good
> to their mothers
> > In-reply-to: <75a7.f3030b3.3899d129@xxxxxxx>
> > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 6:07 PM
> > > Hi Debbie. I did a
> > > look-up on amazon and found this title:
> > >
> > > But He Was Good to His Mother : The Lives and
> Crimes of
> > > Jewish Gangsters
> > > (Paperback)
> > >
> > >
> > > Is this the book in question? I might buy
> it and scan
> > > it if anyone wants to
> > > proof it.
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > > On Behalf Of Debby Franson
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 6:58 PM
> > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] But they were good to
> their
> > > mothers In-reply-to:
> > > <75a7.f3030b3.3899d129@xxxxxxx>
> > >
> > > Hi everyone!
> > >
> > > A friend sent this to me. Here is some
> history, and
> > > the subject line is the
> > > title of a book.
> > >
> > > But they were good to their mothers !!!!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This is a side of Jewish history
> you may have
> > > missed.
> > >
> > > There are few excuses for the
> behavior of
> > > Jewish gangsters in the 1920s
> > > and 1930s. The best known Jewish gangsters
> - Meyer
> > > Lansky, Bugsy Siegel,
> > > Longy Zwillman, Moe Dalitz, David
> Berman- were
> > > involved in the numbers
> > > rackets, illegal drug dealing,
> prostitution, gambling
> > > and loan sharking.
> > > They were not nice men.
> > >
> > > During the rise of American Nazism
> in the
> > > 1930s and when Israel was
> > > being founded between 1945 and 1948, however,
> they
> > > proved staunch defenders
> > > of the Jewish people.
> > >
> > >
> > > The roots of Jewish gangsterism lay
> in
> > > the ethnic neighborhoods of the
> > > Lower East Side; Brownsville,//
> //Brooklyn//; Maxwell
> > > Street in Chicago;
> > > and Boyle Heights in Los Angeles. Like
> other newly
> > > arrived groups in
> > > American history, a few Jews who
> considered
> > > themselves blocked from
> > > respectable professions used crime as a
> means to
> > > "make good" economically.
> > > The market for vice flourished during
> Prohibition and
> > > Jews joined with
> > > others to exploit the artificial market
> created by
> > > the legal bans on
> > > alcohol, gambling, paid sex and narcotics.
> > >
> > > Few of these men were religiously
> > > observant. They rarely attended
> > > services, although they did support
> congregations
> > > financially. They did not
> > > keep kosher or send their children to day
> schools.
> > > However, at crucial
> > > moments they protected other Jews, in
> America and
> > > around the world.
> > >
> > > The 1930s were a period of rampant
> > > anti-Semitism in America,
> > > particularly in the Midwest. Father Charles
> Coughlin,
> > > the Radio Priest in
> > > Detroit, and William Pelley of Minneapolis,
> among
> > > others, openly called for
> > > Jews to be driven from positions of
> responsibility,
> > > if not from the country
> > > itself.
> > >
> > > Organized Brown Shirts in New York
> and
> > > Silver Shirts in Minneapolis
> > > outraged and terrorized American Jewry. While
> the
> > > older and more
> > > respectable Jewish organizations pondered a
> response
> > > that would not
> > > alienate non-Jewish supporters, others -
> including a
> > > few rabbis -asked the
> > > gangsters to break up American Nazi rallies.
> > >
> > > Historian Robert Rockaway writing in
> the
> > > journal of the American Jewish
> > > Historical Society, notes that German-American
> Bund
> > > rallies in the New York
> > > City area posed a dilemma for mainstream
> Jewish
> > > leaders. They wanted the
> > > rallies stopped, but had no legal grounds
> on which to
> > > do so. New York State
> > > Judge Nathan Perlman personally contacted
> Meyer
> > > Lansky to ask him to
> > > disrupt the Bund rallies, with the proviso
> that
> > > Lansky's henchmen stop
> > > short of killing any Bundists. Enthusiastic
> for the
> > > assignment, if
> > > disappointed by the restraints, Lansky
> accepted all
> > > of Perlman's terms
> > > except one: he would take no money for the
> > > work. Lansky later observed, "I
> > > was a Jew and felt for those Jews in Europe
> who were
> > > suffering. They were
> > > my brothers."
> > >
> > > For months, Lansky's workmen
> effectively
> > > broke up one Nazi rally after
> > > another. As Rockaway notes, "Nazi arms, legs and
> ribs
> > > were broken and
> > > skulls were cracked, but no one died."
> > >
> > > Lansky recalled breaking up a Brown
> Shirt
> > > rally in the Yorkville section
> > > of Manhattan: "The stage was decorated with a
> > > swastika and a picture of
> > > Hitler. The speakers started ranting. There
> were only
> > > fifteen of us, but we
> > > went into action. We threw some of them out
> the
> > > windows. . .
> > > . Most of the Nazis panicked and ran out.
> We chased
> > > them and beat them
> > > up... We wanted to show them that Jews
> would not
> > > always sit back and accept
> > > insults."
> > >
> > > In Minneapolis, William Dudley
> Pelley
> > > organized a Silver Shirt Legion to
> > > "rescue" America from an imaginary
> Jewish-Communist
> > > conspiracy. In Pelle's
> > > own words, just as "Mussolini and his Black
> Shirts
> > > saved Italy and as
> > > Hitler and his Brown Shirts saved Germany,"
> he would
> > > save America from
> > > Jewish communists. Minneapolis gambling
> czar David
> > > Berman confronted
> > > Pelley's Silver Shirts on behalf of the
> Minneapolis
> > > Jewish community.
> > >
> > > Berman learned that Silver Shirts
> were
> > > mounting a rally at Lodge. When
> > > the Nazi leader called for all the "Jew bastards"
> in
> > > the city to be
> > > expelled, or worse, Berman and his associates
> burst
> > > in to the room and
> > > started cracking heads. After ten minutes, they
> had
> > > emptied the hall. His
> > > suit covered in blood, Berman took the
> > > microphone and announced, "This is
> > > a warning. Anybody who says anything
> against Jews
> > > gets the same treatment.
> > > Only next time it will be worse." After
> Berman broke
> > > up two more rallies,
> > > there were no more public Silver Shirt
> meetings
> > > in Minneapolis.
> > >
> > > Jewish gangsters also helped
> establish
> > > Israel after the war. One famous
> > > example is a meeting between Bugsy Siegel and
> Reuven
> > > Dafne, a Haganah
> > > emissary, in 1945. Dafne was seeking funds and
> guns
> > > to help liberate
> > > Palestine from British rule. A mutual friend
> arranged
> > > for the two men to
> > > meet.
> > >
> > > "You mean to tell me Jews are
> fighting?"
> > > Siegel asked "You mean fighting
> > > as in killing?" Dafne answered in the
> affirmative.
> > >
> > > Siegel replied, "I'm with you."
> > >
> > > For weeks, Dafne received suitcases
> > > filled with $5 and $10 bills --
> > > $50,000 in all -- from Siegel.
> > >
> > > No one should paint gangsters as
> heroes.
> > > They committed acts of great
> > > evil. But historian Rockaway has presented a
> textured
> > > version of Jewish
> > > gangster history in a book ironically titled,
> "But
> > > They Were Good to their
> > > Mothers."
> > >
> > > Some have observed that, despite
> their
> > > disreputable behavior, they could
> > > be good to their people, too. A little
> interesting
> > > bit of Jewish history.
> > >
> > >
> > > Debby
> > >
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> don't
> > > have. Just dreaming
> > > about nice things is meaningless; it is like
> chasing the
> > > wind.--Ecclesiastes
> > > 6:9 NLT
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