[bksvol-discuss] Re: British and U.S. spelling of words
- From: "Judy s." <cherryjam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 00:29:31 -0600
I'm guessing, Roger, but maybe it's the NIMAC books that make the
difference in the totals? I don't think they show up in searches for those
of us that aren't eligible.
Judy s.
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Roger Loran Bailey
<rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>wrote:
> I see that if I go to the home page it says that Bookshare has171,589
> titles. then I go to the top of the page and click the search button
> without filling in anything in the search field and I get 164,796 results.
> What is being excluded? I am guessing that it would be foreign language
> books, but if it is then are British English books included in that?
> On 11/27/2012 7:26 PM, Cindy Rosenthal wrote:
>
>> That information is good to know. Thanks for posting, it Madeleine
>> Cindy
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Madeleine Linares
>> <Madeleinel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Just a reminder: if you use the regular/general search rather than the
>>> advanced search, you won't have the problem with English US vs English
>>> UK...There will likely be many more results, but you can put in the title
>>> as well as the author into that search bar, which narrows things down a lot.
>>>
>>> I know this isn't an ideal solution, but I've found the general search
>>> to be very useful, especially when you know the title and author.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Madeleine Linares
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>>>
>>> Oh, yes, Roger, I do wish Bookshare would combine British and US. Then
>>> we would not have to choose in our preferences. It would save wear and tear
>>> on the search engines too, because if one chooses US English as a
>>> preference, one cannoot see books with British spelling and punctuation
>>> when using advanced search. Quick search returns way too many choices.
>>>
>>> Sue S.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Roger Loran Bailey
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:56 AM
>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: British and U.S. spelling of words
>>>
>>> To make it short, the Braille reader will be able to tell British
>>> spelling from American spelling just as well as a print reader can tell the
>>> difference. Let me add that the problem with Bookshare is that it treats
>>> British and American English as if they were different languages.
>>> The simple fact is that they are the same language that differ from one
>>> another a lot less than dialects within a lot of languages do. Anyone who
>>> can read one can read the other, whether the reader is reading in Braille
>>> or not. That makes a strong argument for me that they should be combined on
>>> Bookshare.
>>> On 11/27/2012 9:33 AM, Ann Parsons wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Cindy, you are right that Braille is contracted when books are
>>>> published.
>>>> Braille comes in two basic forms: contracted and uncontracted.
>>>> Uncontracted Braille, what we old-timers used to call Grade I, is a
>>>> letter for letter transcription of print. this, form, as you might
>>>> imagine takes up a lot of space. So, the inventors of Braille came up
>>>> with contracted Braille or Grade II. Now, for those of you who are
>>>> actual Braille readers, just forget that you know about Grade 1-1/2 or
>>>> Grade III or Nemeth or Music or Computer Braille. I'm talkin' basics
>>>> here.
>>>>
>>>> Most books are published in Contracted Braille. This involves several
>>>> types of contractions including, whole-word contractions, letter
>>>> contractions and so on. For example the letter h by itself stands for
>>>> the word have. there are contractions for various letter combinations,
>>>> e.g.
>>>> th, wh, gh, er, ed, ation, ally, tion, and so on. By using these
>>>> contractions, Braille is reduced in size.
>>>>
>>>> As for the British spellings, yes, one should be made aware of this so
>>>> that one is not startled by surprize VS surprise, center VS centre, and
>>>> colour VS color. Speech synthes have no trouble reading this kind of
>>>> thing.
>>>>
>>>> Ann P.
>>>>
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