[bksvol-discuss] Re: British and U.S. spelling of words

  • From: Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 21:10:31 -0500

I see that if I go to the home page it says that Bookshare has171,589 titles. then I go to the top of the page and click the search button without filling in anything in the search field and I get 164,796 results. What is being excluded? I am guessing that it would be foreign language books, but if it is then are British English books included in that?

On 11/27/2012 7:26 PM, Cindy Rosenthal wrote:
That information is good to know. Thanks for posting, it Madeleine
Cindy

On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Madeleine Linares
<Madeleinel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi all,

Just a reminder: if you use the regular/general search rather than the advanced 
search, you won't have the problem with English US vs English UK...There will 
likely be many more results, but you can put in the title as well as the author 
into that search bar, which narrows things down a lot.

I know this isn't an ideal solution, but I've found the general search to be 
very useful, especially when you know the title and author.

Best,

Madeleine Linares
Volunteer Coordinator
Bookshare, a Benetech Initiative
650-644-3459
madeleinel@xxxxxxxxxxxx

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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sue Stevens
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 11:42 AM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: British and U.S. spelling of words


Oh, yes, Roger, I do wish Bookshare would combine British and US. Then we would 
not have to choose in our preferences. It would save wear and tear on the 
search engines too, because if one chooses US English as a preference, one 
cannoot see books with British  spelling and punctuation when using advanced 
search. Quick search returns way too many choices.

Sue S.


-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Loran Bailey
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:56 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: British and U.S. spelling of words

To make it short, the Braille reader will be able to tell British spelling from 
American spelling just as well as a print reader can tell the difference. Let 
me add that the problem with Bookshare is that it treats British and American 
English as if they were different languages.
The simple fact is that they are the same language that differ from one another 
a lot less than dialects within a lot of languages do. Anyone who can read one 
can read the other, whether the reader is reading in Braille or not. That makes 
a strong argument for me that they should be combined on Bookshare.
On 11/27/2012 9:33 AM, Ann Parsons wrote:
Hi all,

Cindy, you are right that Braille is contracted when books are published.
Braille comes in two basic forms:  contracted and uncontracted.
Uncontracted Braille, what we old-timers used to call Grade I, is a
letter for letter transcription of print. this, form, as you might
imagine takes up a lot of space. So, the inventors of Braille came up
with contracted Braille or Grade II. Now, for those of you who are
actual Braille readers, just forget that you know about Grade 1-1/2 or
Grade III or Nemeth or Music or Computer Braille.  I'm talkin' basics here.

Most books are published in Contracted Braille.  This involves several
types of contractions including, whole-word contractions, letter
contractions and so on.  For example the letter h by itself stands for
the word have.  there are contractions for various letter combinations, e.g.
th, wh, gh, er, ed, ation, ally, tion, and so on.  By using these
contractions, Braille is reduced in size.

As for the British spellings, yes, one should be made aware of this so
that one is not startled by surprize VS surprise, center VS centre, and
colour VS color.   Speech synthes have no trouble reading this kind of
thing.

Ann P.

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