Understand thanks you all. In QT land, it is type n and let it do its thing. smile. As I do my editing in print don't have to worry about the grade one or grade two braille. Wonder if this will increase crashing and freezing though. Will have to let you all know. Shelley L. Rhodes and Judson, guiding golden juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc. Graduate Advisory Council www.guidedogs.com If a friend is in trouble, don't annoy him by asking if there is anything you can do. Think up something appropriate and do it. -- Edgar Watson Howe