[bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare's Policy & Perspective on its Lists

  • From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 21:56:54 -0500

Thanks, Chela.

Sue S.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Chela Robles
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 8:57 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare's Policy & Perspective on its Lists


Su, here you go: Chela
> List Objectives: Bookshare's primary objective in running these lists is
> to
> provide members and volunteers with a common platform to exchange ideas,
> questions and answers primarily relating to their work and experiences
> with
> Bookshare. In our view the lists are useful in as much as they facilitate
> sharing, foster cooperation and good-will, and promote lively, amicable
> discussion among its member and volunteer communities.
>
> Guidelines for List Users: When engaging in a debate or choosing to
> disagree
> with another member or volunteer, please be mindful of people's feelings.
> All posts whether on or off topic are expected to maintain the spirit of
> friendly cooperation, courtesy and mutual respect. In order to participate
> on Bookshare's lists each person subscribed is required to follow these
> guidelines.
>
>
> Reporting an Issue:  If a person on the list feels that another list user
> is
> abusing this platform with posts of an unduly negative and/or offensive
> nature we ask that they write in their complaint off-list to
> volunteer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx I or another administrator will review the
> complaint
> and if deemed appropriate will write to the individual in question with a
> request that he or she refrain from posts of that nature if they wish to
> remain subscribed to the list. Whether or not the intention of the person
> who posts is to antagonize, injure or anger, if his or her posts elicit
> these or similar responses in other list users, and if posts of the same
> nature persist, the volunteer in question will be required to leave the
> list.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: siss52
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 3:08 PM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare's Policy & Perspective on its 
Lists



  Sorry, Pavi, but I do not see any guidelines or policy listed on this 
post.  It must not have been sent.

  Sue S.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Pavi Mehta
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 3:47 PM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare's Policy & Perspective on its 
Lists


  Hi All,



  Thank you for the discussion on this topic. It is clear that it evokes 
strong responses across the spectrum from many people and I believe that in 
hearing the different viewpoints we each gain a better understanding of the 
bigger picture. People have different styles, take what you hear on this 
list with a grain of salt and don't take it personally are great takeaways. 
And so is: It doesn't hurt  and definitely helps our common goals when you 
try to take into consideration how other people might feel about the nature 
and tone of what you say.



  "Do not be excessively annoying, do not be excessively annoyed," is a 
great way to put it. And I don't think anyone on the list needs to worry 
about Bookshare catering excessively to the most brittle members. Each of us 
on this list is in a sense a guardian of this platform, and we contribute 
here in different ways to the Bookshare experience of fellow volunteers.



  Our role as staff is not to take a heavy handed approach when responding 
to people's reports, but simply when something is brought to our attention, 
as per the policies outlined below, to let volunteers know if some of their 
posts are creating negative ripples among volunteers in the community and to 
remind them of the guidelines and ultimate objectives of these lists.



  I will not be responding to this subject on the list any further, but if 
you have suggestions or questions regarding any of this you are welcome to 
write to me off-list at pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx



  Warm regards,

  Pavi



  Pavi Mehta

  Volunteer Coordinator, Bookshare



  Benetech

  480 S. California Ave., Suite 201

  Palo Alto, CA 94306-1609 USA

  Phone:  +1 650 644-3459



  pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx



  www.benetech.org



  The Benetech Initiative - Technology Serving Humanity

  A Nonprofit Organization



















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  Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 11:48 AM
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare's Policy & Perspective on its 
Lists



  And the problem with catering to the most brittle members is that one 
never knows what will set them off. It creates a situation known as walking 
on eggshells.

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  [bksvol-discuss] Re: Bookshare's Policy & Perspective on its Lists
  Date:
  9/9/2009 1:27:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time
  From:
  soronel.haetir@xxxxxxxxx
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  bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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  So the list does in fact cater to the most brittle members.

  I would have preferred something closer to the fidonet rule:
  Do not be excessively annoying, do not be excessively annoyed.

  On 9/8/09, Pavi Mehta <pavim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
  > Hi All,
  > In case it's useful, as a general reminder I'm including below a note 
sent
  > awhile ago to the list regarding Bookshare's policy on its lists:
  > List Objectives: Bookshare's primary objective in running these lists is 
to
  > provide members and volunteers with a common platform to exchange ideas,
  > questions and answers primarily relating to their work and experiences 
with
  > Bookshare. In our view the lists are useful in as much as they 
facilitate
  > sharing, foster cooperation and good-will, and promote lively, amicable
  > discussion among its member and volunteer communities.
  >
  > Guidelines for List Users: When engaging in a debate or choosing to 
disagree
  > with another member or volunteer, please be mindful of people's 
feelings.
  > All posts whether on or off topic are expected to maintain the spirit of
  > friendly cooperation, courtesy and mutual respect. In order to 
participate
  > on Bookshare's lists each person subscribed is required to follow these
  > guidelines.
  >
  >
  > Reporting an Issue:  If a person on the list feels that another list 
user is
  > abusing this platform with posts of an unduly negative and/or offensive
  > nature we ask that they write in their complaint off-list to
  > volunteer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx I or another administrator will review the 
complaint
  > and if deemed appropriate will write to the individual in question with 
a
  > request that he or she refrain from posts of that nature if they wish to
  > remain subscribed to the list. Whether or not the intention of the 
person
  > who posts is to antagonize, injure or anger, if his or her posts elicit
  > these or similar responses in other list users, and if posts of the same
  > nature persist, the volunteer in question will be required to leave the
  > list.
  > My own exposure to the list has led me to a real appreciation of how 
much
  > each one of you has to share.  Collectively you have taken this platform 
and
  > helped create a unique and deep-rooted sense of community among 
Bookshare's
  > members and volunteers. We hope the objectives and guidelines put 
forward in
  > this mail will help us address posts that have a detrimental effect on 
that
  > sense of community. Please feel free to contact me if you have questions
  > about any of the above.
  > Warm regards,
  > Pavi Mehta
  >
  > Volunteer Coordinator, Bookshare
  > Benetech
  > 480 S. California Ave., Suite 201
  > Palo Alto, CA 94306-1609 USA
  > Phone:  +1 650 644-3459
  >
  >

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