[bksvol-discuss] Re: Books with pics?

  • From: "Allison" <alwaysallie@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 09:01:50 -0400

Hi Darrell,

The book I was talking about specifically when I started this thread was one which could definitely be enjoyed without pic descriptions. I read it originally in a college children's literature class. The professor read it to us because it was the most recent Caldecott Award winner. She read it to the class, and I had no picture descriptions while she read. I still loved the book! The class was so amazed by the quality of the illustrations, but I found myself not caring. I didn't feel like I was missing out, it was just a good book. I think perhaps people place too much importance on pictures sometimes. Plus, isn't it better for kids to get exposed to pictureless books, than never exposed to such great works at all?

Allison

----- Original Message ----- From: "Darrell Shandrow" <darrell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 4:01 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Books with pics?


Hi Jana and all,

I think quality is certainly not an unimportant factor. If the pictures are required to understand the book's contents, then either include descriptions or don't submit the book. There's nothing more disappointing and upsetting than the wasted time of downloading and trying to read a book only to find that it is impossible to understand due to the required interpretation of missing visual information or poor or misformatted text that is incomprehensible.

I'd say, when thinking about whether to submit or accept a submitted book for publication, that you ask yourself this single question. Can I realistically understand the contents of this book once I no longer have the original print in my hands? If the answer is yes, then go for it but, if the answer is no or probably not, then ditch the book for now or get some help with it until it is ready. Just my $0.02 on this matter.


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----- Original Message ----- From: "jana" <jana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 11:55 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Books with pics?






---------- Original Message -----------
From: socly@xxxxxxxxx
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Sent: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 01:46:25 -0500
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Books with pics?

Hi, Jana,

I'm afraid my post wasn't clear. I didn't mean Anastasia shouldn't
submit a picture book but that she shouldn't worry about or try to
scan the pictures, if bookshare can't reproduce them. She could just
submit the text, unless she has a sighted relative or friend who can
desribe the picture to her and she has the patience to type  in.

If she could get the pictures to scan, as people seem to suggest the
new Kurzweill can do, can bookshare retain them? That would be wonderful.

Cindy

---- Original Message -----
From: "Jana Jackson" <jana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 20:38:13 -0500
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Books with pics?

> Hi, Cindy! As long as the text can be scanned, it's fine to submit > books
> that would normally contain pictures. The problem is that sometimes, > if a
> picture is in the middle of a page with text before and after it, you > have
> to remove tons of junk characters! <Smile> Still, if a person has the
> patience to deal with them, it's okay to go for it. Take care!
>
> Jana
>
> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 6:51 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Books with pics?
>
>
> > Whether or not books with illustrations scan well
> > would be irrelevant if bookshare can't reproduce the
> > pictures, which I thought was the case. I guess we'll
> > need info from the administrators about that.
> >
> > Cindy
> >
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------- End of Original Message -------
Hi, Cindy! Unfortunately, you're correct, Bookshare cannot retain pictures.
Hopefully, Anastasia will have someone who can describe the pictures for her,
as I'm sure they add a lot to the story. <Smile>

BTW, I hope this e-mail comes through. I am going on a cruise in a few weeks,
so I'm experimenting to see if I'll be able to use the computers on the ship
to check my e-mail. I'm using FreedomBox, a Web browser designed for visually
impaired folks, and I'm checking my messages through my Web site. I know
that's clear as mud, but I think this just might work. I doubt that I'll be
checking my e-mail very much, though. <LOL> Take care!

Jana





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