[bksvol-discuss] Re: Books rated excellent recently added to the collection that are really only good

  • From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:56:37 -0400

Two ways:
get someone who can read and check, or use an Optacon.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dixie" <BlueHerons@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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How does one know definitively if it is a scanning error vs. an editor error
in a book?

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 5:08 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Books rated excellent recently added to the
collection that are really only good


I've read Three Hearts and Three Lions several times my favorite edition has
3 errors--turth for truth, bas for bears, and beat for bat.  Once I would
have corrected them.  Now, I think they make up part of the flavor of that
edition. There's a first edition version published by the SF Bookclub, some
of the wording changes between first and second editions.  Which was the
author's intention? He published it both ways. If they're different, I let
them be different.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Carrie Karnos" <ckarnos@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 9:35 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Books rated excellent recently added to the
collection that are really only good


The Bookshare policy is to correct scanning errors, but not change the
content, as Lora said. I will move sections of text around, when it makes it clearer to the readers what the flow of the text is, but I don't add or
delete words.  As a case in point, a few days ago, someone donated a book
where in 2 different instances, the bottom 2 lines on one page are
repeated on the top 2 lines of the next page. I can't remove the repeated
text (as much as I'd like to!) but I'm going to add a validator's note
that says these lines are repeated in the book, it's not a scanning error.
This is solely to prevent confusion.  I imagine I'd get a lot of people
writing in to say that the scanner messed up, when it's the book that's
messed up.

HTH, Carrie

----- Original Message ----
From: Lora <loravara@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 4:22:43 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Books rated excellent recently added to the
collection that are really only good

Oh no, no, no.  We should never correct facts like that.  As was said by
someone else, it violates the author and publisher copyright.  And we
should
have the same experience as the sighted public in our reading.

More to the point, and please understand that I mean no offense, I want to
read what the author said, not what anyone thinks he or she should have
said.

In fact, I'd love to see Bookshare make a policy regarding this, if they
haven't already.  We should not change content, only correct the errors
that
were introduced by the scanning process.



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 4:09 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Books rated excellent recently added to the
collection that are really only good

Well, if it is an obvious error, if we are absolutely sure of the correct
title, (as in my case with the Roy Orbison book which I should submit for
review, then I will do it. If I am not sure, I will not even begin to get
the idea I should change it. All Roy Orbison fans should know the correct
title of that song referred too in that book, but if you were  not a fan
or
didn't know the titles of his songs, then you might think that "breaking
up
is hard to do," is correct, when in fact, it is not. So, since I know, I
changed it to "breaking up is breaking my heart," the correct title. It is
like saying, in this case that president Truman was elected in 1960, when
in
fact, it was not. :)
:) <grin>
Authors are human, they do not know all the facts or they can, even in
book
form, make mistakes. We are not "authors" as such, but if you have a fact, it is a fact after all, and whether or not it is a book, published or not,
if that fact is continually allowed to flourish via your hands as
"editors"
as such, then you are responsible if you do not change it to the correct
facts, if your ground is as certain as the rock that is the essence of
this
planet. <grin>

Curtis Delzer


----- Original Message ----- From: "eric troup" <yakkoman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 11:09 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Books rated excellent recently added to the
collection that are really only good


Agreed. And if it's even a little unclear, I believe you have to give
the author/editor the benefit of the doubt.  It's a slippery slope as
is.

On 18 Apr 2008, at 03:43, Cindy Ray wrote:

Well, we were admonished to fish the kinds of errors mentioned when I
was studying the braille transcription program at NLS. However, you do
have to be sure the change should be made. Most of the time you can
tell.

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