[bksvol-discuss] Re: Books on the Step 1 Page

  • From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 00:50:01 -0400

Dear Lora, Carrie, Jake  and Volunteer Friends,

Since last night I've been troubled by Jake's admonishment to Carrie to scan 
fewer books for Bookshare. It was unthinkable that one of our most 
conscientious, loyal, volunteers who is so willing to scan special interest 
books for all of us would be so systematically and publicly criticized. Lori, 
you said almost everything that was in my heart for me. 

Carrie, I'd still be day dreaming about and fruitlessly searching for a scanner 
for some of the Celtic and Tolkien books that I've loved reading and have added 
to the collection, without your efforts. Please carry on as usual.

All that I would add is a question. Are the Bookshare tools being overwhelmed 
by the number of books on the step one page? If not, I don't see the harm in it 
for them to linger there as inspiration to the diverse volunteers who will 
eventually discover them and gratefully and enthusiastically validate them. How 
can we ever catch up with Project Gutenberg if we discourage scans? (asked 
rhetorically as mild humor.)

Finally, Jake, you are a computer genius and extremely helpful to Bookshare and 
to this list. Diplomacy is a completely different skill every bit as 
complicated as electronics. Diplomacy takes time and experience to learn. As a 
list monitor you're getting an, on the job, crash course in it. You deserve our 
patience, understanding and admiration as you adjust to your multi-faceted role 
as list monitor. I wouldn't even attempt doing your job, or Gerald's or 
Kellie's; not even for a fifty thousand dollar gift certificate for new 
electronics and another fifty thousand dollar certificate to pay a full time 
teacher to educate me to use 
my new treasures.

Always with love,


"Maybe I should write a book called one hundred and one ways to use a frying 
Sam Gamgee 
in Tolkien fanfiction by Alatariel
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lora 
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 11:52 PM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Books on the Step 1 Page

  I know that Jake and others have mentioned that they would like to see the 
Step 1 page cleared out.  It was suggested that some of the books submitted 
weren't popular, because of the time they lingered on the Step 1 page, and it 
was implied that because of this, despite numerous such submissions, the books 
weren't all that useful.

  First of all, I would prefer never to see the Step 1 page cleared out.  To 
me, this would suggest that we're not submitting enough books to keep the 
validators busy.  I hope that Bookshare never experiences this fate, as the 
majority of the books I now read come from Bookshare.  NLS, RFB and other such 
sources are distant seconds.  Keep submitting books, and hopefully we'll 
develop a rhythm, a steady flow that always has books rolling off the step 1 
page, while others roll on.  There are some instances when completing 
everything on your plate is good, but I'm not convinced that this is such an 

  I don't know where Carrie gets all of her books, but at least a few of them 
have come from me.  They're very specific, books for business analysts, and 
it's likely that very few people would want to read them.  I snag them when 
they come up, and often hold on to them for quite some time, until I have time 
to make sure they're in really good shape.  If other users then submit very 
special interest books, and expect others to validate them instead of realizing 
that since they're of such narrow interest they'll have to do it themselves, 
then it's possible that many books Carrie scans would linger on the Step 1 
page.  I don't know how many books this applies to, so please understand I'm 
not quoting a statistic, just pointing out a possible scenario.

  And sometimes books linger for other reasons.  I have a Laurell K. Hamilton, 
Anita Blake book, sitting on my hard drive.  It will probably only take a few 
hours to validate, as the scan is excellent, but I've not been in a rush.  Why? 
 Because I approved Guilty Pleasures, the first book in that series, positively 
ages ago, and it's still in the admin queue.  Perhaps it's my own bias, but I 
figure, why rush it?  People will want to read the books in order, so I'll do 
this one once the first book goes up.

  As to clearing out step 1, a suggestion, then, would be to occasionally 
validate books you're not interested in.  I've validated a western romance, a 
few textbooks, and some Hooked On Phonics Books, none of which are of any 
interest to me.  And trust me, the western romance is at the very bottom of the 
heap of things I want to read.

  And if the books linger, so be it.  After all, maybe one day someone will be 
looking for a book, and discover it hiding on the Step 1 page.

  Only my two cents.  Everyone's Bookshare experience, and philosophy, will 


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