[bksvol-discuss] Re: Book chopping or other defacing
- From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2007 23:18:32 -0500
I usually will "pretend" to read the book, and bend the pages back and forth
to exercise the spine.
if it is a truly uncooperative book, I will lay it face down on the floor
and step on the spine.
This is definitely only for books I actually own, smile.
Shelley L. Rhodes B.S. Ed, CTVI
and Judson, guiding golden
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From: "Bud Schwab" <budschwab@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 11:01 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Book chopping or other defacing
I also prefer to push the book down hard down on the scanner, but I
have broken two scanners by pushing too hard. I repaired the last
one myself with a couple small sdcrews even though it was still under
waranty. I figured that was easier than having my wife take me to
the repair center and leaving it for a week or so. Actually I was
able to order a new top for a little over twenty bucks which will
solve all my problems.
Bud
At 07:45 PM 2/27/2007, you wrote:
>The only time I chopped a book it was a large paperback, and my
>husband used a knife if I remember correctly. I really prefer to
>push the binding down hard and would disassemble a book as a last resort.
>
>Diane
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>From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of GenePoole
>Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 10:26 PM
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Book chopping or other defacing
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>As I've said before, I am an avid book lover and the thought of
>chopping up a book has about the same appeal as chopping up my wife,
>should I have one. But you can do it much easier with an exacto
>knife, should you so choose to do, rather than a paper cutter, I've found.
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>From: <mailto:kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Katie Hill
>To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 6:21 PM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Book chopping or other defacing
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>HI Carrie and all,
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>When I firs started chopping books I took them to Home demo. Now MJ
>cuts them for me with a carpet knife. He can get as good a cut as a
>chopper. There are also paper cutters available for 50 to 100 pages
>for not too much out there if you plan on doing this a lot over time.
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>Katie Hill
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>You can learn a lot if you are humble enough to listen.
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>Lynn Lewis Warren
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>Email: <mailto:Kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>503-777-7155
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>From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carrie Karnos
>Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 2:36 PM
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Book chopping or other defacing
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>Yes, I do the same thing to "chop" a book. I remove the cover by
>hand, and then use an industrial-strength chopper that's in the
>office, right behind where I was sitting in the CBS video. The
>chopper goes through paperbacks, even 400 page ones, like a hot
>knife through butter. Hardbound books are a different
>story. Because the pages are thicker, I usually cut the book into
>200-page sections, and then have to use most of my weight to get the
>blade through the pages.
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>Luckily most publishers try to have the same inside margin next to
>the spine, but occasionally the margin will vary and I'll chop off
>some words on several pages. This is what happened when I chopped a
>February New York Times bestseller, The Winter Lodge. There are
>probably 20 pages with words chopped off, so I have to check those
>pages very carefully and type in the complete word. Sigh! At least
>all the other bestsellers were okay. I'll try to get all the easy
>bestsellers (and the ones people have requested) into the collection
>first, then validate the harder ones (the non-fiction ones and The
>Winter Lodge).
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>Carrie
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>agoldringtajalli <agoldringtajalli@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>Jamie,
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>For those who do not already know how to "chop" a book - painful
>though it may seem - this is how I did it - I removed the cover as
>one piece and then had the "spine" cut off by the nearest hardware
>store like Ace's or Lowe's or you local store. It may seem dreadful
>but sometimes it not only facilitates the use of the ADF scanner but
>the use of a normal scanner. In addition, it insures that the words
>on the inner margins will be included without distortion. I did it
>when I was scanning so that I could insure that the whole pages
>would be clear.
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>It is a choice between having one book for myself or having a really
>good copy of a book for Bookshare. And I can always keep the cover
>with the loose pages to use to check the original when validating
>the copy. And if I want my heirs to inherit the book they will be
>happy to have something from me even in that form. I would not
>recommend doing it to first printings and first editions; Nor to
>very valuable editions. One book I splurged and bought in paperback
>to avoid harming my hardback while still getting a copy I could read
>from the scan. I needed the scan to read but would not harm the
>good edition and it was worth the $ to get the paperback. In most
>cases I would not, could not afford to do that but I really wanted
>to read the book.
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>As for annotating your own books by highlighting or writing
>notes. For books you will keep the notes will help you when you
>next read it or use it for reference and may also trigger memories
>of a time and place - hopefully good. You might also find you are
>adding notes each time you read it. Some of my books have sections
>with multi-colored comments and under-linings. Some books I have
>lent or given to people who were grateful for my notes. It is
>different if you need to resell the books but for keepers, do
>yourself the favor and highlight and make notes for your future or
>your offspring.
>
>
>
>Amy in Florida - stay warm
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>From: <mailto:jamieyates@xxxxxxxxxxx>Jamie Yates
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>Date: 2/26/2007 12:31:28 PM
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>To: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Book chopping or other defacing
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>Carrie, I still can't bring myself to highlight or
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>write in a textbook. My classmates have no qualms
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>about it but man some of my books in the past have
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>cost a couple hundred dollars EACH. And some
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>bookstores are so picky you can't sell them back with
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>highlighting. Of course when I buy a used one in the
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>bookstore I look for ones with highlighting especially
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>if I am pretty sure it was used on that campus.
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>Chances are what was important for the previous user
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>by that professor is going to be important to me.
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>But I won't mark it up myself.
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>I loved seeing your ADF scanner in the video and how
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>fast that must be but I'm not sure I could chop a book
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>myself. How DO you chop a book, anyway?
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>Jamie in Michigan
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