[bksvol-discuss] Re: Book chopping or other defacing

  • From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:02:25 -0800 (PST)

Thanks for the explanation, Bud.

Cindy

--- Bud Schwab <budschwab@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Cindy,
> 
> No I don't use the top cover I should've called it. 
> I just press 
> down firmly on the glass itself.  That's where I
> broke two different 
> ones.  Some you have to press quite hard to get it
> flat enough.  The 
> glass is held by some little clips and some kind of
> sticky stuff but 
> they're pretty flimsy and will snap with enough
> pressure.   I fussed 
> at Epson about it but they said those scanners were
> made basically 
> for photos and light work like that.  I wonder if
> anybody else has 
> had the problem of the glass falling down at a
> corner or 
> edge.  Anyway, as I said a new glass in the frame
> was only about $20 
> so on with my heavy scanning.
> 
> BudAt 09:16 PM 2/27/2007, you wrote:
> >Bud,
> >
> >Your comment about getting a new top for the
> scanner
> >leads me to wonder if you use the top and press
> down
> >on the top and if that's what broke. Shortly after
> I
> >started scanning s few years ago I learned that one
> >isn't supposed to use the cover-I guess it's just
> for
> >keeping the platen clean when the scanner is not in
> >use. One presses on the book itself enough to see
> that
> >it seems to be flat on the glass, especially at the
> >binding.
> >
> >If I misunderstood, I apologize.
> >
> >Cindy
> >
> >--- Bud Schwab <budschwab@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > I also prefer to push the book down hard down on
> the
> > > scanner, but I
> > > have broken two scanners by pushing too hard.  I
> > > repaired the last
> > > one myself with a couple small sdcrews even
> though
> > > it was still under
> > > waranty.  I figured that was easier than having
> my
> > > wife take me to
> > > the repair center and leaving it for a week or
> so.
> > > Actually I was
> > > able to order a new top for a little over twenty
> > > bucks which will
> > > solve all my problems.
> > >
> > > Bud
> > > At 07:45 PM 2/27/2007, you wrote:
> > > >The only time I chopped a book it was a large
> > > paperback, and my
> > > >husband used a knife if I remember correctly. 
> I
> > > really prefer to
> > > >push the binding down hard and would
> disassemble a
> > > book as a last resort.
> > > >
> > > >Diane
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----------
> > > >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > > Behalf Of GenePoole
> > > >Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 10:26 PM
> > > >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Book chopping or
> > > other defacing
> > > >
> > > >As I've said before, I am an avid book lover
> and
> > > the thought of
> > > >chopping up a book has about the same appeal as
> > > chopping up my wife,
> > > >should I have one. But you can do it much
> easier
> > > with an exacto
> > > >knife, should you so choose to do, rather than
> a
> > > paper cutter, I've found.
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: <mailto:kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Katie Hill
> > > >To:
> > >
>
><mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 6:21 PM
> > > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Book chopping or
> > > other defacing
> > > >
> > > >HI Carrie and all,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >When I firs started chopping books I took them
> to
> > > Home demo. Now MJ
> > > >cuts them for me with a carpet knife. He can
> get as
> > > good a cut as a
> > > >chopper. There are also paper cutters available
> for
> > > 50 to 100 pages
> > > >for not too much out there if you plan on doing
> > > this a lot over time.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Katie Hill
> > > >
> > > >You can learn a lot if you are humble enough to
> > > listen.
> > > >
> > > >Lynn Lewis Warren
> > > >
> > > >Email:
> > >
> <mailto:Kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>Kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > >503-777-7155
> > > >
> > > >----------
> > > >From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > > Behalf Of Carrie Karnos
> > > >Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 2:36 PM
> > > >To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Book chopping or
> > > other defacing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Yes, I do the same thing to "chop" a book.  I
> > > remove the cover by
> > > >hand, and then use an industrial-strength
> chopper
> > > that's in the
> > > >office, right behind where I was sitting in the
> CBS
> > > video. The
> > > >chopper goes through paperbacks, even 400 page
> > > ones, like a hot
> > > >knife through butter.  Hardbound books are a
> > > different
> > > >story.  Because the pages are thicker, I
> usually
> > > cut the book into
> > > >200-page sections, and then have to use most of
> my
> > > weight to get the
> > > >blade through the pages.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Luckily most publishers try to have the same
> inside
> > > margin next to
> > > >the spine, but occasionally the margin will
> vary
> > > and I'll chop off
> > > >some words on several pages.  This is what
> happened
> > > when I chopped a
> > > >February New York Times bestseller, The Winter
> > > Lodge.  There are
> > > >probably 20 pages with words chopped off, so I
> have
> > > to check those
> > > >pages very carefully and type in the complete
> word.
> > >  Sigh!  At least
> > > >all the other bestsellers were okay.  I'll try
> to
> > > get all the easy
> > > >bestsellers (and the ones people have
> requested)
> > > into the collection
> > > >first, then validate the harder ones (the
> > > non-fiction ones and The
> > > >Winter Lodge).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Carrie
> > > >
> > > >agoldringtajalli
> <agoldringtajalli@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >Jamie,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >For those who do not already know how to "chop"
> a
> > > book - painful
> > > >though it may seem - this is how I did it - I
> > > removed the cover as
> > > >one piece and then had the "spine" cut off by
> the
> > > nearest hardware
> > > >store like Ace's or Lowe's or you local store. 
> It
> > > may seem dreadful
> > > >but sometimes it not only facilitates the use
> of
> > > the ADF scanner but
> > > >the use of a normal scanner.  In addition, it
> > > insures that the words
> > > >on the inner margins will be included without
> > > distortion.  I did it
> > > >when I was scanning so that I could insure that
> the
> > > whole pages
> > > >would be clear.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >It is a choice between having one book for
> myself
> > > or having a really
> > > >good copy of a book for Bookshare.  And I can
> > > always keep the cover
> > > >with the loose pages to use to check the
> original
> > > when validating
> > > >the copy.  And if I want my heirs to inherit
> the
> > > book they will be
> > > >happy to have something from me even in that
> form.
> > > I would not
> > > >recommend doing it to first printings and first
> > > editions;  Nor to
> > > >very valuable editions.  One book I splurged
> and
> > > bought in paperback
> > > >to avoid harming my hardback while still
> getting a
> > > copy I could read
> > > >from the scan. I needed the scan  to read but
> would
> > > not harm the
> > > >good edition and it was worth the $ to get the
> > > paperback.  In most
> > > >cases I would not, could not afford to do that
> but
> > > I really wanted
> > > >to read the book.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >As for annotating your own books by
> highlighting or
> > > writing
> > > >notes.  For books you will keep the notes will
> help
> > > you when you
> > > >next read it or use it for reference and may
> also
> > > trigger memories
> > > >of a time and place - hopefully good.  You
> might
> > > also find you are
> > > >adding notes each time you read it.  Some of my
> > > books have sections
> > > >with multi-colored comments and under-linings.
> > > Some books I have
> > > >lent or given to people who were grateful for
> my
> > > notes.  It is
> > > >different if you need to resell the books but
> for
> > > keepers, do
> > > >yourself the favor and highlight and make notes
> for
> > > your future or
> > > >your offspring.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Amy in Florida - stay warm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-------Original Message-------
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >From: <mailto:jamieyates@xxxxxxxxxxx>Jamie
> Yates
> > > >
> > > >Date: 2/26/2007 12:31:28 PM
> > > >
> > > >To:
> > >
>
><mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >
> > > >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Book chopping or
> other
> > > defacing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Carrie, I still can't bring myself to highlight
> or
> > > >
> > > >write in a textbook. My classmates have no
> qualms
> > > >
> > > >about it but man some of my books in the past
> have
> > > >
> > > >cost a couple hundred dollars EACH. And some
> > > >
> > > >bookstores are so picky you can't sell them
> back
> > > with
> > > >
> > > >highlighting. Of course when I buy a used one
> in
> > > the
> > > >
> > > >bookstore I look for ones with highlighting
> > > especially
> > > >
> > > >if I am pretty sure it was used on that campus.
> > > >
> > > >Chances are what was important for the previous
> > > user
> > > >
> > > >by that professor is going to be important to
> me.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >But I won't mark it up myself.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >I loved seeing your ADF scanner in the video
> and
> > > how
> > > >
> > > >fast that must be but I'm not sure I could chop
> a
> > > book
> > > >
> > > >myself.  How DO you chop a book, anyway?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Jamie in Michigan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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