[bksvol-discuss] Re: BAEN BOOKS
- From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:11:37 -0500
Dave,
I beg to differ. Page breaks, or better yet, page demarcation, is used in
the academic area (or anywhere) for citation purposes. Page breaks (or
control characters thereof) weren't only invented for printing purposes.
They are there so that intelligent conversations can reference correct
pages. The emphasis on correct page breaks or pagination is absolutely
essential for books so long as the sighted world continues to use the
system. Whether or not this should be the case is an entirely different
question.
As to the Baen books being scanned or added to the collection by
Bookshare.org automatically--I'll say this. I'm sure Bookshare has all the
intentions to process these books in a quick manner. But, until that
happens, I'll continue to advocate that volunteers continue to scan books
that they want to see in the collection immediately.
Pratik
-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of talmage@xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 9:55 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: BAEN BOOKS
I wouldn't think it would be a wise utilization of time and effort to
scan a book that can be added to the library directly via the
publisher. Especially, when you consider the publisher's copy should
be in perfect condition. Regarding the mark up, or work the
publisher's RTF files would need, the only thing I can see they would
require is hard page breaks. I think over time we've gotten too hung
up on the placement of page breaks in the Bookshare files. For the
books in the collection page breaks provide a way to navigate through
the file. A page break is nothing more than a control code sent to
the printer to tell it to feed another piece of paper. Since we are
hopefully just reading the books, and not printing them, the page
breaks just allow us to move through the book in a set fashion, so
that when we tell whatever it is we are accessing the book with, to
go to the next page, it doesn't jump all the way to the end of the
file. Page breaks certainly aren't part of the intellectual property
that is copyrighted in the work.
Dave
At 02:57 AM 1/10/2008, you wrote:
>According to her note, if you scan a book, then yes as you would not be
>dealing with the particular technical issues we've been discussing.
They're
>asking us not to submit any of the electronic books.
>
>Pratik
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gary Petraccaro
>Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 10:23 PM
>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: BAEN BOOKS
>
>If I scan a Baen book, do I submit or not?
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Claire O'Brien" <claire.o@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: "Jim Fruchterman" <Jim.F@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Lisa Friendly"
><lisa.f@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Jake Brownell" <jake.b@xxxxxxxxxxxx>;
><bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Cc: "Carrie Karnos" <ckarnos@xxxxxxxxx>; "Mandy Throckmorton"
><Mandy.T@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 8:28 PM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] BAEN BOOKS
>
>
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > Recently the subject of Baen books has shown up on the discussion lists.
> >
> >
> > The decision regarding Bookshare.org policy regarding Baen books is
> > this:
> > Bookshare.org staff will be responsible for coordinating the bulk add of
> > Baen content to the Bookshare collection.
> >
> > These books may require some mark up, and to ensure they are done
> > consistently; we've made the decision to process them in-house.
> >
> > We ask that our volunteers continue to submit books that they have
> > personally scanned.
> >
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Claire O'Brien
> > Collection Development Manager
> > Bookshare.org
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: FreeLists Mailing List Manager [mailto:ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 11:51 PM
> > To: bksvol-discuss digest users
> > Subject: bksvol-discuss Digest V5 #9
> >
> > bksvol-discuss Digest Mon, 07 Jan 2008 Volume: 05 Issue: 009
> >
> > In This Issue:
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: pages missing
> > [bksvol-discuss] Romance Book club Meeting
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: atonement
> > [bksvol-discuss] OT: Sing-A-Long "Grease"
> > [bksvol-discuss] hope springs eternal
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: books available from others
> > sources--of
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Sing-A-Long "Grease"
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: books available from others
> > sources--of
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen Books?
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: More kids series
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen Books?
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: sorry
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: just uploaded
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Sing-A-Long "Grease"
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Sing-A-Long "Grease"
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen Books?
> > [bksvol-discuss] Baen books again - how do we submit
> > them?
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> > [bksvol-discuss] Is it to soon to start scanning?
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice -- EPSON
> > GT-2500
> > [bksvol-discuss] Just submitted
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice -- EPSON
> > GT-2500
> > [bksvol-discuss] Another submission
> > [bksvol-discuss] Another submission
> > [bksvol-discuss] Adult Content from NLS, interesting
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit
> > the
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Is it to soon to start scanning?
> > [bksvol-discuss] Submitted: Matrix Energetics
> > [bksvol-discuss] One last submission
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> > [bksvol-discuss] Star Wars books
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Star Wars books
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Is it to soon to start scanning?
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit
> > the
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: pages missing
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Is it to soon to start scanning?
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit
> > the
> > [bksvol-discuss] Hooked On Books Is Back Tomorrow,
> > Tuesday,
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit
> > the
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit
> > the
> > [bksvol-discuss] 16 Lighthouse Road
> > [bksvol-discuss] tables converting to text Jamie's great
> > tip
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit
> > the
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Clarification on Tables
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: 16 Lighthouse Road
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: tables converting to text Jamie's
> > great
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> > [bksvol-discuss] Wish List and other books I have
> > scanned an
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Wishlist Request
> > [bksvol-discuss] Trouble on the Site
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Is it to soon to start scanning?
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: 16 Lighthouse Road
> > [bksvol-discuss] Thank You
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 00:03:37 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: pages missing
> >
> > Grace,
> >
> > I put in a request for Savage Skies. The other two are
> > not in my lbiraries. I see from checking Amazon that
> > they are Harlequin romances. If they were submitted by
> > you-know-who and are in the shape that you describe,
> > the best thing to do, though they sound like delicious
> > reading, is to reject them. If Savage Skies is
> > submitted by the same person, I suggest you reject
> > that, too, and if you do, please let me know and I'll
> > cancel the request.
> >
> > G.Cindy
> >
> > --- Silvara <silvara@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Folks:
> >>
> >> I am validating 3 books and all 3 have pages missing
> >> or pages need rescanning or both.
> >>
> >> Savage Skies by Cassie Edwards, The Knight's
> >> courtship by Joanne Rock and the Venetian's Mistress
> >> by Anne Elizabeth Cree. If someone could get the
> >> books and scan these pages then these books can
> >> finally be off step 1.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Grace
> >
> >
> > WISH LIST (called Requested Additions To The Bookshare Collection)is
> > available at
> > http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/Book_Requests.htm
> > http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/
> > http://studentpages.alma.edu/~07jmyate/book_requests.htm
> >
> > www.jbrownell.com for miscellaneous and useful threads
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________________________________________
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Susan" <slumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Romance Book club Meeting
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 02:20:07 -0600
> >
> > Happy New Year Everyone From Grace and Susan,
> >
> >
> > We hope you'll join us on the 3rd Friday of January for the first
> > meeting
> > of the Romance Book Club in 2008. We'll be discussing A Cinderella
> > Christmas: (An American Romance) by Shelley Galloway as well as
> > recommending
> > a book for the February meeting.
> >
> >
> >
> > Synopsis: When Morgan finds himself suddenly dateless for his company's
> > Christmas ball, he asks the woman who cleans his office. But the fairy
> > tale
> > evening falls apart when his ex-girlfriend shows up... Guess we weren't
> > completely able to let go of the holidays quite yet! Hope you'll join
> > us.
> >
> >
> >
> > Date: Friday, January 18, 2008
> >
> >
> >
> > Time: 6 P.M. Pacific, 7 Mountain, 8 Central, 9 P.M. Eastern and Saturday
> > GMT
> > 02:00.
> >
> >
> >
> > Where: Just point your web browser to the following address:
> >
> > http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rs7867a2369e0e
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 09:22:52 -0500
> > From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: atonement
> >
> > Because it was done before NLS made it available or started before NLS
> > made
> > the book available, or because it was required for a class where
> > specific
> > asignments covering specific pages needed to be done would be my two
> > best
> > reasons why duplication is worth it.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jill O'Connell" <jillocon@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 1:41 AM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] atonement
> >
> >
> >>I see that this book is on the new books list. It is available both as
> > a
> >>web braille book and a talking book. I fail to understand why anyone
> > would
> >>spend their time scanning a book that is available in both forms from
> > NLS.
> >>Jill
> >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
> >> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a
> > list
> >> of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject
> > line.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "liz halperin" <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [bksvol-discuss] OT: Sing-A-Long "Grease"
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 00:37:38 -0800
> >
> > What a hoot! Many of audience in costume, which my friend described to
> > me. I
> > wasn't able to see the lyrics scrolling by, but remembered about half of
> > the
> > songs. When we went in, we were handed a small bag of props to use
> > during
> > certain scenes. A woman in an old formal dress went up and explained the
> > process, props, what to use when, various things and did some practice
> > signing with us. She also explained about "chair-ography." Like
> > choreography for dancers. But when doing the hand jive and a few other
> > movements we had to keep them small or we'd jab the people beside us. So
> > we
> > have several run throughs of "chair-ography." Young John Travolta. It
> > was
> > obvious where Saturday Night Fever started here first. And some of the
> > names... One of the song writers was Barry Gibb of the BeeGees, we were
> > easily able to identify which songs. On one song, the lead guitarist was
> > peter Frampton. Sid Caesar was the then-younger athletic coach. He
> > showed up
> > in Seattle when the musical Hairspray was being developed before going
> > to
> > Broadway. There was Eve Arden as school principal, and friend and I were
> > racking our brains for title of TV show she'd been in. We knew our moms
> > would know, even through the dementia both suffer. But finally my friend
> > remembered "Our Miss Brooks," and she was a secretary. It was a very
> > early
> > version of "Mary Tyler Moore" show or Marlo Thomas in "That Girl." Funny
> > that now John Travolta is in movie "Hairspray." Now I want the
> > sing-a-long
> > version of "The Sound of Music" to return. That was even more fun!
> >
> > Liz, hoarse from singing along, off-key as usual
> >
> > Liz Halperin
> > Portland, OR
> > lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "liz halperin" <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] hope springs eternal
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 00:39:02 -0800
> >
> > Still hoping for a good and fixed scan of Wheelock's Latin.....
> >
> > Liz Halperin
> > Portland, OR
> > lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 03:54:39 -0500
> > From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books available from others
> > sources--official
> >
> > I'm still not clear on whether that means porting over the rtf or buying
> > the
> > book and scanning. Perhaps I'm not awake yet. <sigh>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 12:36 AM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] books available from others sources--official
> > attitude
> >
> >
> >>
> >> -For those of you who might have missed Jim
> >> Fruchterman's post on the subject, in response to a
> >> question about Baen books, I'm posting it here again.
> >> Actually, I'm not sure if it was posted here or on the
> >> bookshare list, or both but anyway, here is the
> >> pertinent part:
> >>
> >> G.Cindy
> >>
> >> "The question of duplication (with other possible
> >> means of obtaining
> >>> accessible books) comes up frequently. Our general
> >> answer is that we'd
> >>> like to have the book. There are several reasons
> >> for this:
> >>> - format problems (what if PDF doesn't work for you?
> >> What if you're
> >>> deaf and blind and need Braille?)
> >>> - format flexibility (what if you prefer Braille
> >> over audio, even though
> >>> you can hear? What if seeing and hearing the text at
> >> the same time works
> >>> better for you? What if you want to read one way
> >> while mobile and
> >>> another way while in your home or office?)
> >>> - including some Bookshare.org users who are
> >> excluded from some sources
> >>> (because they have a learning disability, because
> >> they are in a
> >>> different country)
> >>> - series completeness (we're increasingly trying to
> >> make entire series
> >>> available on Bookshare.org)
> >>> - ease of access (what percentage of print disabled
> >> people are likely to
> >>> know about a given source, such as Baen's deal?)
> >>> - cost savings (it's cheaper for us to deal with our
> >> users than it is
> >>> for publishers to do the same: that's often the
> >> motivation for working
> >>> with us)
> >>> - Lowering the barrier to access by increasing task
> >> success (we want the
> >>> new and existing user to find the book he or she
> >> wants the great
> >>> majority of the time, so that they are confident in
> >> the future of having
> >>> access)
> >>>
> >>> I'm probably forgetting more reasons, but the key
> >> one is Bookshare.org
> >>> ethic for collection development. If one person in
> >> our community
> >>> thought it was worth scanning and validating, we
> >> want that book. That's
> >>> why 90% of the Bookshare.org collection is there.
> >> Our low cost to add a
> >>> book because of our dedicated volunteer community
> >> makes this a
> >>> responsible policy, while empowering our readers."
> >>>
> >>> Jim Fruchterman
> >>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
> >>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject
> >> line. To get a list of available commands, put the
> >> word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> WISH LIST (called Requested Additions To The Bookshare Collection)is
> >> available at
> >> http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/Book_Requests.htm
> >> http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/
> >> http://studentpages.alma.edu/~07jmyate/book_requests.htm
> >>
> >> www.jbrownell.com for miscellaneous and useful threads
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >> 11:57 AM
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> >>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 04:00:38 -0500
> > From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> >
> > I hope you're not jumping the gun. Epsons have been highly regarded for
> > a
> > long time, at least the Perfection line.
> >
> > What model Epson?
> > Also, have you discussed this with the k1000 tech support people?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:50 PM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] scanner buying advice
> >
> >
> > Hi all. I'm ditching my old epson, and would rather not use them again.
> > they're ok for printers, but I can't instal the one I had with out help,
> > so
> > unless epson wised up, I don't want to get another one. I'm not a brand
> > hog, I just want a fast scan using k1000 not a huge one so it won't take
> > up
> > room, pretty quiet, and not that expensive. As for where to buy, I have
> > twenty dollars off one hundred if I spend at staples, but that's fine if
> > i
> > go somewhere else. I'll go anywhere and if it's an online merchant i
> > haven't heard of, just let me know it's safe because you've shopped
> > there
> > and I'll be happy. I've dealt with credit card fraud to many times to
> > count
> > last year, I'd rather not do it again. There's no rush so just let me
> > know.
> > Thanks all.
> > Siobhan
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --------
> >
> >
> > No virus found in this incoming message.
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> > 1/6/2008
> > 11:57 AM
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 04:03:34 -0500
> >
> > Gary, Nick from the otherlist tried and tried to help me withit, I got
> > so
> > frustrated I quit. Lok, the installation disk after clicking continue
> > is
> > inaccessible, all I know is i have an ipson perfection 1260 whether or
> > not
> > its a phone I don't kno. I've also had it seven years, it was a freebie
> >
> > from dell years back hen I gt this desktop. Befre that, I had a UMax
> > scanner that once installed took so long the tech woman said youwon't
> > ned
> > it, ook it,nd when I had a major reformat later, I ended up with a paper
> >
> > weight. so that's why I won't go for an eopson again.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:00 AM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> >
> >
> >>I hope you're not jumping the gun. Epsons have been highly regarded
> > for a
> >>long time, at least the Perfection line.
> >>
> >> What model Epson?
> >> Also, have you discussed this with the k1000 tech support people?
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:50 PM
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] scanner buying advice
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi all. I'm ditching my old epson, and would rather not use them
> > again.
> >> they're ok for printers, but I can't instal the one I had with out
> > help,
> >> so
> >> unless epson wised up, I don't want to get another one. I'm not a
> > brand
> >> hog, I just want a fast scan using k1000 not a huge one so it won't
> > take
> >> up
> >> room, pretty quiet, and not that expensive. As for where to buy, I
> > have
> >> twenty dollars off one hundred if I spend at staples, but that's fine
> > if i
> >> go somewhere else. I'll go anywhere and if it's an online merchant i
> >> haven't heard of, just let me know it's safe because you've shopped
> > there
> >> and I'll be happy. I've dealt with credit card fraud to many times to
> >
> >> count
> >> last year, I'd rather not do it again. There's no rush so just let me
> >
> >> know.
> >> Thanks all.
> >> Siobhan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --------
> >>
> >>
> >> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> >> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date:
> > 1/6/2008
> >> 11:57 AM
> >>
> >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
> >> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a
> > list
> >> of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject
> > line.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Scott Blanks" <scottsjb@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 01:09:37 -0800
> >
> > Most Epsons can be installed without using the installation cd. You can
> > download drivers for the device from the Internet. I'm not saying this
> > is
> > easy, but just wanted you to know that there are alternatives. Epsons,
> > in my
> > opinion, and in the opinion of many others, are great scanners.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 1:03 AM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> >
> >
> >> Gary, Nick from the otherlist tried and tried to help me withit, I got
> > so
> >> frustrated I quit. Lok, the installation disk after clicking continue
> > is
> >> inaccessible, all I know is i have an ipson perfection 1260 whether or
> > not
> >> its a phone I don't kno. I've also had it seven years, it was a
> > freebie
> >> from dell years back hen I gt this desktop. Befre that, I had a UMax
> >> scanner that once installed took so long the tech woman said youwon't
> > ned
> >> it, ook it,nd when I had a major reformat later, I ended up with a
> > paper
> >> weight. so that's why I won't go for an eopson again.
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:00 AM
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> >>
> >>
> >>>I hope you're not jumping the gun. Epsons have been highly regarded
> > for a
> >>>long time, at least the Perfection line.
> >>>
> >>> What model Epson?
> >>> Also, have you discussed this with the k1000 tech support people?
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:50 PM
> >>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] scanner buying advice
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi all. I'm ditching my old epson, and would rather not use them
> > again.
> >>> they're ok for printers, but I can't instal the one I had with out
> > help,
> >>> so
> >>> unless epson wised up, I don't want to get another one. I'm not a
> > brand
> >>> hog, I just want a fast scan using k1000 not a huge one so it won't
> > take
> >>> up
> >>> room, pretty quiet, and not that expensive. As for where to buy, I
> > have
> >>> twenty dollars off one hundred if I spend at staples, but that's fine
> > if
> >>> i
> >>> go somewhere else. I'll go anywhere and if it's an online merchant i
> >>> haven't heard of, just let me know it's safe because you've shopped
> > there
> >>> and I'll be happy. I've dealt with credit card fraud to many times
> > to
> >>> count
> >>> last year, I'd rather not do it again. There's no rush so just let
> > me
> >>> know.
> >>> Thanks all.
> >>> Siobhan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --------
> >>>
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 01:31:02 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> >
> > I've been very happy with mine. But the more recent
> > one I got, which was on sale, is not as complete as
> > the other one, and I'd have to download the rest and
> > pay for it. But since I'm not scanning complete books
> > any more it's fine for my needs.
> >
> > G.Cindy
> >
> > --- Scott Blanks <scottsjb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> Most Epsons can be installed without using the
> >> installation cd. You can
> >> download drivers for the device from the Internet.
> >> I'm not saying this is
> >> easy, but just wanted you to know that there are
> >> alternatives. Epsons, in my
> >> opinion, and in the opinion of many others, are
> >> great scanners.
> >>
> >> Scott
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 1:03 AM
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> >>
> >>
> >> > Gary, Nick from the otherlist tried and tried to
> >> help me withit, I got so
> >> > frustrated I quit. Lok, the installation disk
> >> after clicking continue is
> >> > inaccessible, all I know is i have an ipson
> >> perfection 1260 whether or not
> >> > its a phone I don't kno. I've also had it seven
> >> years, it was a freebie
> >> > from dell years back hen I gt this desktop. Befre
> >> that, I had a UMax
> >> > scanner that once installed took so long the tech
> >> woman said youwon't ned
> >> > it, ook it,nd when I had a major reformat later, I
> >> ended up with a paper
> >> > weight. so that's why I won't go for an eopson
> >> again.
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:00 AM
> >> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying
> >> advice
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>I hope you're not jumping the gun. Epsons have
> >> been highly regarded for a
> >> >>long time, at least the Perfection line.
> >> >>
> >> >> What model Epson?
> >> >> Also, have you discussed this with the k1000 tech
> >> support people?
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:50 PM
> >> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] scanner buying advice
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi all. I'm ditching my old epson, and would
> >> rather not use them again.
> >> >> they're ok for printers, but I can't instal the
> >> one I had with out help,
> >> >> so
> >> >> unless epson wised up, I don't want to get
> >> another one. I'm not a brand
> >> >> hog, I just want a fast scan using k1000 not a
> >> huge one so it won't take
> >> >> up
> >> >> room, pretty quiet, and not that expensive. As
> >> for where to buy, I have
> >> >> twenty dollars off one hundred if I spend at
> >> staples, but that's fine if
> >> >> i
> >> >> go somewhere else. I'll go anywhere and if it's
> >> an online merchant i
> >> >> haven't heard of, just let me know it's safe
> >> because you've shopped there
> >> >> and I'll be happy. I've dealt with credit card
> >> fraud to many times to
> >> >> count
> >> >> last year, I'd rather not do it again. There's
> >> no rush so just let me
> >> >> know.
> >> >> Thanks all.
> >> >> Siobhan
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --------
> >> >>
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> >
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> > available at
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> >
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> >
> >
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 01:32:14 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Sing-A-Long "Grease"
> >
> > It sounds like a lot of fun. There was a theater in
> > L.A. where they did the same thing at nighttime shows
> > with Rocky Horror Picture Show. Fortunately, it played
> > for years, so when my girls were finally old enough we
> > took them.
> >
> > G.Cindy
> >
> > --- liz halperin <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> What a hoot! Many of audience in costume, which my
> >> friend described to me. I
> >> wasn't able to see the lyrics scrolling by, but
> >> remembered about half of the
> >> songs. When we went in, we were handed a small bag
> >> of props to use during
> >> certain scenes. A woman in an old formal dress went
> >> up and explained the
> >> process, props, what to use when, various things and
> >> did some practice
> >> signing with us. She also explained about
> >> "chair-ography." Like
> >> choreography for dancers. But when doing the hand
> >> jive and a few other
> >> movements we had to keep them small or we'd jab the
> >> people beside us. So we
> >> have several run throughs of "chair-ography." Young
> >> John Travolta. It was
> >> obvious where Saturday Night Fever started here
> >> first. And some of the
> >> names... One of the song writers was Barry Gibb of
> >> the BeeGees, we were
> >> easily able to identify which songs. On one song,
> >> the lead guitarist was
> >> peter Frampton. Sid Caesar was the then-younger
> >> athletic coach. He showed up
> >> in Seattle when the musical Hairspray was being
> >> developed before going to
> >> Broadway. There was Eve Arden as school principal,
> >> and friend and I were
> >> racking our brains for title of TV show she'd been
> >> in. We knew our moms
> >> would know, even through the dementia both suffer.
> >> But finally my friend
> >> remembered "Our Miss Brooks," and she was a
> >> secretary. It was a very early
> >> version of "Mary Tyler Moore" show or Marlo Thomas
> >> in "That Girl." Funny
> >> that now John Travolta is in movie "Hairspray." Now
> >> I want the sing-a-long
> >> version of "The Sound of Music" to return. That was
> >> even more fun!
> >>
> >> Liz, hoarse from singing along, off-key as usual
> >>
> >> Liz Halperin
> >> Portland, OR
> >> lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > WISH LIST (called Requested Additions To The Bookshare Collection)is
> > available at
> > http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/Book_Requests.htm
> > http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/
> > http://studentpages.alma.edu/~07jmyate/book_requests.htm
> >
> > www.jbrownell.com for miscellaneous and useful threads
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books available from others
> > sources--official att
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 04:44:22 -0500
> >
> > That is the one publisher where the RTF books can be ported so long as
> > you
> > make sure that those submitted RTF files conform to rest of
> > Bookshare.org's
> > submission guidelines.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Pratik
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gary
> > Petraccaro
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:55 AM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: books available from others
> > sources--official
> > attitude
> >
> > I'm still not clear on whether that means porting over the rtf or buying
> > the
> >
> > book and scanning. Perhaps I'm not awake yet. <sigh>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 12:36 AM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] books available from others sources--official
> > attitude
> >
> >
> >>
> >> -For those of you who might have missed Jim
> >> Fruchterman's post on the subject, in response to a
> >> question about Baen books, I'm posting it here again.
> >> Actually, I'm not sure if it was posted here or on the
> >> bookshare list, or both but anyway, here is the
> >> pertinent part:
> >>
> >> G.Cindy
> >>
> >> "The question of duplication (with other possible
> >> means of obtaining
> >>> accessible books) comes up frequently. Our general
> >> answer is that we'd
> >>> like to have the book. There are several reasons
> >> for this:
> >>> - format problems (what if PDF doesn't work for you?
> >> What if you're
> >>> deaf and blind and need Braille?)
> >>> - format flexibility (what if you prefer Braille
> >> over audio, even though
> >>> you can hear? What if seeing and hearing the text at
> >> the same time works
> >>> better for you? What if you want to read one way
> >> while mobile and
> >>> another way while in your home or office?)
> >>> - including some Bookshare.org users who are
> >> excluded from some sources
> >>> (because they have a learning disability, because
> >> they are in a
> >>> different country)
> >>> - series completeness (we're increasingly trying to
> >> make entire series
> >>> available on Bookshare.org)
> >>> - ease of access (what percentage of print disabled
> >> people are likely to
> >>> know about a given source, such as Baen's deal?)
> >>> - cost savings (it's cheaper for us to deal with our
> >> users than it is
> >>> for publishers to do the same: that's often the
> >> motivation for working
> >>> with us)
> >>> - Lowering the barrier to access by increasing task
> >> success (we want the
> >>> new and existing user to find the book he or she
> >> wants the great
> >>> majority of the time, so that they are confident in
> >> the future of having
> >>> access)
> >>>
> >>> I'm probably forgetting more reasons, but the key
> >> one is Bookshare.org
> >>> ethic for collection development. If one person in
> >> our community
> >>> thought it was worth scanning and validating, we
> >> want that book. That's
> >>> why 90% of the Bookshare.org collection is there.
> >> Our low cost to add a
> >>> book because of our dedicated volunteer community
> >> makes this a
> >>> responsible policy, while empowering our readers."
> >>>
> >>> Jim Fruchterman
> >>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> WISH LIST (called Requested Additions To The Bookshare Collection)is
> >> available at
> >> http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/Book_Requests.htm
> >> http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/
> >> http://studentpages.alma.edu/~07jmyate/book_requests.htm
> >>
> >> www.jbrownell.com for miscellaneous and useful threads
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> > ________
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen Books?
> > From: james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 07:36:19 -0500
> >
> > Hi,
> > Would they not need a grade 2 translator?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
> >
> > "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> > the
> > world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "E."
> >
> > <thoth93@earthlin
> >
> > k.net>
> > To
> > Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > bksvol-discuss-bo
> > cc
> > unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > g
> > Subject
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen Books?
> >
> >
> >
> > 01/04/2008 11:10
> >
> > PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> >
> > bksvol-discuss@fr
> >
> > eelists.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > If a deaf blind person is using a rtf file with a braille display the
> > rtf will showup as grade two braille.
> >
> > E.
> >
> >
> > At 01:38 PM 1/4/2008, you wrote:
> >
> >>So we can make BRF books for the deaf-blind?
> >>
> >>Jim
> >>
> >>James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> >>james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
> >>
> >>"Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> > the
> >>world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Ann Parsons"
> >> <akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >
> > To
> >> Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> bksvol-discuss-bo
> > cc
> >> unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> g
> > Subject
> >> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen
> > Books?
> >>
> >> 01/04/2008 01:33
> >> PM
> >>
> >>
> >> Please respond to
> >> bksvol-discuss@fr
> >> eelists.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Hi all,
> >>
> >>Why put Baen books on Bookshare? Baen books are free to the blind.
> >>
> >>Ann P.
> >>
> >>--
> >>Ann K. Parsons
> >>Portal Tutoring
> >>EMAIL: akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>http://www.portaltutoring.info
> >>"All that is gold does not glitter,
> >>Not all those who wander are lost."
> >>
> >>Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit
> >>www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere.
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: More kids series
> > From: james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 07:38:14 -0500
> >
> > Hi,
> > I will help validate any that come through?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
> >
> > "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> > the
> > world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen Books?
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 07:38:59 -0500
> >
> > No. The screen reader or the note taker takes care of grade 2
> > translation
> > on the fly.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 7:36 AM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen Books?
> >
> > Hi,
> > Would they not need a grade 2 translator?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
> >
> > "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> > the
> > world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "E."
> >
> > <thoth93@earthlin
> >
> > k.net>
> > To
> > Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > bksvol-discuss-bo
> > cc
> > unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > g
> > Subject
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen Books?
> >
> >
> >
> > 01/04/2008 11:10
> >
> > PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> >
> > bksvol-discuss@fr
> >
> > eelists.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > If a deaf blind person is using a rtf file with a braille display the
> > rtf will showup as grade two braille.
> >
> > E.
> >
> >
> > At 01:38 PM 1/4/2008, you wrote:
> >
> >>So we can make BRF books for the deaf-blind?
> >>
> >>Jim
> >>
> >>James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> >>james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
> >>
> >>"Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> > the
> >>world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Ann Parsons"
> >> <akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >
> > To
> >> Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> bksvol-discuss-bo
> > cc
> >> unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> g
> > Subject
> >> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen
> > Books?
> >>
> >> 01/04/2008 01:33
> >> PM
> >>
> >>
> >> Please respond to
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Hi all,
> >>
> >>Why put Baen books on Bookshare? Baen books are free to the blind.
> >>
> >>Ann P.
> >>
> >>--
> >>Ann K. Parsons
> >>Portal Tutoring
> >>EMAIL: akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>http://www.portaltutoring.info
> >>"All that is gold does not glitter,
> >>Not all those who wander are lost."
> >>
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: sorry
> > From: james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 07:42:55 -0500
> >
> > Hi Maithe,
> > My prayers are with you.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
> >
> > "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> > the
> > world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: just uploaded
> > From: james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 07:46:31 -0500
> >
> > Hi,
> > I think I saw this title on step one before. I could be wrong though.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
> >
> > "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> > the
> > world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Phyllis Stevens"
> >
> > <catlady1949@comc
> >
> > ast.net>
> > To
> > Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > bksvol-discuss-bo
> > cc
> > unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > g
> > Subject
> > [bksvol-discuss] just uploaded
> >
> >
> >
> > 01/05/2008 08:17
> >
> > PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> >
> > bksvol-discuss@fr
> >
> > eelists.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Home with God in a life that never ends Neale Donald Walsch
> >
> >
> > Excellent book. Already read the others and was glad for this one.
> > Phyllis, Emmy dog, and
> > the kitties, Simon and Sarah
> >
> > catlady1949@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > This is also my MSN address.
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> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:22:05 -0500
> >
> > me too, My epson 1660 is still trucking along, after now, what three
> > years
> > of use, and I put it through its paces, smile.
> >
> > Will be sad when this guy goes.
> >
> > Shelley L. Rhodes M.A., VRT, CTVI
> > and Guinevere, Golden lady Guide
> > juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
> > Graduate Alumni Association Board
> > www.guidedogs.com
> >
> > More than Any other time, When i hold a beloved book in my hand, my
> > limitations fall from me, my spirit is free.
> > - Helen Keller
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "liz halperin" <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 2:39 AM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> >
> >
> > When you think you know what you want, try online with www.newegg.com
> > for a
> > good price. I've purchased tons of electronics from them, very satisfied
> > by
> > prices and policies. Me, I'm still happily scanning with my old
> > workhorse
> > Epson Perfection 1660. Also try online www.pricegrabbers.com to see who
> > has
> > the cheapest item you've chosen. For me it's usually been NewEgg, so I
> > go
> > directly there now.
> >
> > Liz in PDX
> >
> > Liz in Portland
> >
> > Liz Halperin
> > Portland, OR
> > lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Guido Corona
> > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 7:55 PM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> >
> >
> > If you want an extremely durable scanner, optimized for document
> > scanning,
> > that can scan a page in just about 2 seconds, you may want to try the
> > EPSON
> > GT-2500. Lists for $595 but is usually retailed for less. See features
> > and
> > specs at:
> >
> > http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCooki
> > e=ye
> > s&oid=63059818
> >
> <http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?BV_UseBVCook>
ie=y
> > es&oid=63059818>
> >
> > And it has apparently an absolute killer document feeder to boot!
> >
> > G.
> >
> >
> > Guido Dante Corona
> > IBM Research,
> > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> > Austin Tx.
> > Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able <http://www.ibm.com/able>
> >
> > ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
> > were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> > questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> > wise."
> > [David Poyer, The Command]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Monica Willyard <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > 01/06/2008 09:17 PM
> > Please respond to
> > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > To
> > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > cc
> > Subject
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi. If you're looking for a small, fast scanner, you might consider the
> > Canon LIde scanners. I have used them for years, and they work well. I
> > have
> > owned a LiDe 30 and a LiDe 70, and both of them have served me well. The
> > LiDe 30 scanned over a thousand books for me before it died after around
> > five years of almost daily use. The software that comes with this line
> > of
> > scanners stays out of the way and doesn't interfere with Kurzweil in any
> > way. I bought mine from Office Depot, and Staples has these scanners
> > too.
> > This scanner is light and slim enough to fit into a laptop bag, so it
> > can
> > travel with you if you're in school or want to scan a reference book at
> > your
> > library. I'm interested to see what others will recommend for you. I
> > hope
> > this helps.
> >
> > Monica Willyard
> >
> >
> > Siobhan wrote:
> > Hi all. I'm ditching my old epson, and would rather not use them again.
> > they're ok for printers, but I can't instal the one I had with out help,
> > so
> > unless epson wised up, I don't want to get another one. I'm not a brand
> > hog, I just want a fast scan using k1000 not a huge one so it won't take
> > up
> > room, pretty quiet, and not that expensive.
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "liz halperin" <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Sing-A-Long "Grease"
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 05:22:59 -0800
> >
> > This is about 9 blocks down the street from me....
> >
> > "The Clinton Street Theater has been showing the Rocky Horror Picture
> > Show
> > every Saturday night (except for foul weather, holidays, etc.) since
> > April
> > 1978.
> >
> > Bring your rice, the toast, the G-String, and come on down to the
> > longest
> > running RHPS in the WORLD!"
> >
> > 30 years... For $6, a real deal.
> > liz
> >
> > Liz Halperin
> > Portland, OR
> > lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: OT: Sing-A-Long "Grease"
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:24:57 -0500
> >
> > Ah, smile.
> >
> > I have been to that form of movie before with the Rockie horror Picture
> > Show, smile, a blast with a lot of fun. Would love to join in the
> > Greece
> > version.
> >
> > Shelley L. Rhodes M.A., VRT, CTVI
> > and Guinevere, Golden lady Guide
> > juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
> > Graduate Alumni Association Board
> > www.guidedogs.com
> >
> > More than Any other time, When i hold a beloved book in my hand, my
> > limitations fall from me, my spirit is free.
> > - Helen Keller
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "liz halperin" <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:37 AM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] OT: Sing-A-Long "Grease"
> >
> >
> > What a hoot! Many of audience in costume, which my friend described to
> > me. I
> > wasn't able to see the lyrics scrolling by, but remembered about half of
> > the
> > songs. When we went in, we were handed a small bag of props to use
> > during
> > certain scenes. A woman in an old formal dress went up and explained the
> > process, props, what to use when, various things and did some practice
> > signing with us. She also explained about "chair-ography." Like
> > choreography for dancers. But when doing the hand jive and a few other
> > movements we had to keep them small or we'd jab the people beside us. So
> > we
> > have several run throughs of "chair-ography." Young John Travolta. It
> > was
> > obvious where Saturday Night Fever started here first. And some of the
> > names... One of the song writers was Barry Gibb of the BeeGees, we were
> > easily able to identify which songs. On one song, the lead guitarist was
> > peter Frampton. Sid Caesar was the then-younger athletic coach. He
> > showed up
> > in Seattle when the musical Hairspray was being developed before going
> > to
> > Broadway. There was Eve Arden as school principal, and friend and I were
> > racking our brains for title of TV show she'd been in. We knew our moms
> > would know, even through the dementia both suffer. But finally my friend
> > remembered "Our Miss Brooks," and she was a secretary. It was a very
> > early
> > version of "Mary Tyler Moore" show or Marlo Thomas in "That Girl." Funny
> > that now John Travolta is in movie "Hairspray." Now I want the
> > sing-a-long
> > version of "The Sound of Music" to return. That was even more fun!
> >
> > Liz, hoarse from singing along, off-key as usual
> >
> > Liz Halperin
> > Portland, OR
> > lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 08:43:20 -0500
> > From: "E." <thoth93@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen Books?
> >
> > Lots of us load .rtf files into notetakers all the time when we
> > validate. They come up in grade 2 braille. Notetakers have the
> > translator built right in.
> >
> > E.
> >
> >
> > At 07:36 AM 1/7/2008, you wrote:
> >>Hi,
> >>Would they not need a grade 2 translator?
> >>
> >>Jim
> >>
> >>James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> >>james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
> >>
> >>"Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> > the
> >>world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "E."
> >> <thoth93@earthlin
> >> k.net>
> > To
> >> Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> bksvol-discuss-bo
> > cc
> >> unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> g
> > Subject
> >> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen
> > Books?
> >>
> >> 01/04/2008 11:10
> >> PM
> >>
> >>
> >> Please respond to
> >> bksvol-discuss@fr
> >> eelists.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>If a deaf blind person is using a rtf file with a braille display the
> >>rtf will showup as grade two braille.
> >>
> >>E.
> >>
> >>
> >>At 01:38 PM 1/4/2008, you wrote:
> >>
> >> >So we can make BRF books for the deaf-blind?
> >> >
> >> >Jim
> >> >
> >> >James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> >> >james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
> >> >
> >> >"Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> > the
> >> >world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Ann Parsons"
> >> > <akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >
> >>To
> >> > Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > bksvol-discuss-bo
> >>cc
> >> > unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > g
> >>Subject
> >> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen
> > Books?
> >> >
> >> > 01/04/2008 01:33
> >> > PM
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Please respond to
> >> > bksvol-discuss@fr
> >> > eelists.org
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Hi all,
> >> >
> >> >Why put Baen books on Bookshare? Baen books are free to the blind.
> >> >
> >> >Ann P.
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Ann K. Parsons
> >> >Portal Tutoring
> >> >EMAIL: akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >http://www.portaltutoring.info
> >> >"All that is gold does not glitter,
> >> >Not all those who wander are lost."
> >> >
> >> >Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Dan Beaver" <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Baen books again - how do we submit them?
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:59:11 -0500
> >
> > Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about
> > submitting them. The Baen books I have read none of them had page
> > breaks or
> > page numbers and no Copyright info included.
> >
> > Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work on?
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Kellie Hartmann" <hart0421@xxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:08:35 -0600
> >
> > Hi Guido,
> > Is this a legal-sized scanner? I looked at the specs a bit and see that
> > the document feeder is, but is the scanning bed itself? Thanks, I'm
> > planning for the inevitable demise of my beloved hp4c.
> > Kellie
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 06:45:41 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Anastasia Saridakis <anamatia81@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Is it to soon to start scanning?
> >
> > I did some research and I found 2 different books on the VA Tech
> > tragedy. I am from MD and my brother graduated from Tech in 2005. One of
> > the students who was killed had a father who taught at the school. My
> > brother took his class. This subject is very close to my heart. My
> > question is: is it too soon to put such a book on the site? Anyone on
> > the list from the area too? Thank you.
> > Anastasia
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try
> > it now.
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice -- EPSON GT-2500
> > From: Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:29:28 -0600
> >
> > No, the flatbed of the GYT-2500 is standard letter size. The feeder
> > may
> > accept legal sized documents. If I recall correctly, the feeder also
> > supports duplex scanning, that is scanning on both sides of a page. . .
> > great for scanning magazines and books that have been 'deboned'--or have
> >
> > been rendered 'spineless'.
> > G.
> >
> >
> > Guido Dante Corona
> > IBM Research,
> > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> > Austin Tx.
> > Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
> >
> > ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
> >
> > were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> > questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> > wise."
> > [David Poyer, The Command]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Kellie Hartmann" <hart0421@xxxxxxx>
> > Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > 01/07/2008 08:08 AM
> > Please respond to
> > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > To
> > <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > cc
> >
> > Subject
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Guido,
> > Is this a legal-sized scanner? I looked at the specs a bit and see that
> > the document feeder is, but is the scanning bed itself? Thanks, I'm
> > planning for the inevitable demise of my beloved hp4c.
> > Kellie
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "solsticesinger" <solsticesinger25@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Just submitted
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:30:55 -0600
> >
> > Hi, all.
> >
> > I have just submitted, for your validating pleasure, All The Wrong
> > Places by
> > Karin Kallmaker. This is a lesbian romance, and definitely contains some
> >
> > adult content. It is in .rtf format, and headers have been removed. The
> > synopsis is below.
> >
> > Brandy Monsoon is looking for love. Since there's never a shortage of
> > casual
> > playmates at the tropical resort where she works, most of the time she
> > gets
> > it, too. And if Brandy tires of the perpetually curious - but primarily
> > straight - women, there's always her best friend Tess for a friendly
> > encounter...
> >
> >
> >
> > When an all-lesbian tour group arrives for a week, Brandy is sure she'll
> > be
> > in-paradise on earth. Among the guests is lesbian celebrity comic Celine
> >
> > Griffin, who has an obvious interest in an after-dinner Brandy. Celine
> > and
> > Brandy do find explosive pleasure together, - so why does Brandy feel as
> > if
> > that's no longer enough for happiness?
> >
> >
> >
> > With days and nights so delicious... who cares about tomorrow?
> >
> >
> >
> > In All the Wrong Places, Lambda award winner Karin Kallmaker spins
> > another
> > masterful tale of passion and love.
> >
> >
> >
> > Shannon
> >
> > We are wise, not because we are women, but because we seek wisdom.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Kellie Hartmann" <hart0421@xxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice -- EPSON GT-2500
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:32:59 -0600
> >
> > Spineless books, like spineless people, are rather dull. <lol> You're
> > right about the duplex; that's what the specs said.
> > Thanks,
> > Kellie, who's eating cold oatmeal and beef jerky for breakfast
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "solsticesinger" <solsticesinger25@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Another submission
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:38:14 -0600
> >
> > Those Who Save Us by Jenna Blum has been submitted in .rtf format. Here
> > is
> > the synopsis.
> >
> > FOR FIFTY YEARS, Anna Schlemmer has refused to talk about her life in
> > Germany during World War II. Her daughter, Trudy, was only three when
> > she
> > and her mother were liberated by an American soldier and went to live
> > with
> > him in Minnesota. Trudy's sole evidence of the past is an old
> > photograph: a
> > family portrait showing Anna, Trudy, and a Nazi officer. Trudy, now a
> > professor of German history, begins investigating the past and finally
> > unearths the heartbreaking truth of her mother's life. Those Who Save Us
> > is
> > a profound exploration of what we endure to survive and the legacy of
> > shame.
> >
> >
> >
> > Shannon
> >
> > We are wise, not because we are women, but because we seek wisdom.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "solsticesinger" <solsticesinger25@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Another submission
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:47:13 -0600
> >
> > I have also submitted Halfway House by Katharine Noel. As usual, it is
> > in
> > .rtf format. Find the synopsis below.
> >
> > One day, Angie Voorster-diligent student, all-star swimmer, and Ivy
> >
> >
> >
> > League-bound high school senior-dives to the bottom of a pool and stays
> >
> >
> >
> > there. In that moment, everything the Voorster family believes they know
> >
> >
> >
> > about each other changes. As Angie swings between manic highs and
> > dangerous
> >
> >
> >
> > lows, the Voorsters struggle to maintain the appearance of an ideal New
> > England
> >
> >
> >
> > family. It is only when Angie is finally able to fend for herself that
> > the
> > family allows
> >
> >
> >
> > itself to fall apart and then regather in a new, fundamentally changed
> > way.
> > With grace
> >
> >
> >
> > and precision, debut novelist Katharine Noel guides us through a world
> > where
> > love
> >
> >
> >
> > is imperfect, and where longing for an imagined ideal can both destroy
> > one
> > family's
> >
> >
> >
> > happiness and offer it redemption.
> >
> >
> > Shannon
> > We are wise, not because we are women, but because we seek wisdom.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "liz halperin" <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Adult Content from NLS, interesting
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:01:24 -0800
> >
> > Looking at last Set/Oct NLS Braille Book review. Normally I dislike that
> > so
> > much of the "Adult Fiction" is for junior and senior high readers. Some
> > of
> > the other books say "explicit descriptions of sex, violence, and strong
> > language." Ok. But read the description of this one. If it were being
> > scanned into Bookshare would it be marked Adult Content because of the
> > sex
> > and violence? "Copper Sunday by Sharon Draper, 2 volumes. Amari is taken
> > from her African village when she is fifteen and sold to a southern
> > plantation owner in America. Amari and Polly, a white indentured
> > servant,
> > risk everything to escape. Descriptions of sex and violence. For senior
> > high
> > and older readers. Coretta Scott King Award. 2006."
> > And what makes the difference of descriptions of vs. explicit?????
> >
> > Liz in PDX
> >
> > Liz Halperin
> > Portland, OR
> > lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
> > From: Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 10:01:50 -0600
> >
> > All, I have just downloaded:
> > 1812: The Rivers of War by Eric Flint,
> >
> > from the Baen Free library site in unzipped RTF format. The book
> > contains
> > a valid copyright notice, an ISBN, specifies that this is a mass market
> >
> > edition--meaning it is the etext of a paperback, and it appears to sport
> >
> > page breaks of some kind. MS Word reports a total of 411 pages,
> > while
> > Kurzweil 1000 reports just under 250 pages. I suspect that the document
> >
> > may not use standard page breaks for pagination. If this were the case,
> >
> > some editors may not detect page breaks at all.
> >
> > Guido
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Guido Dante Corona
> > IBM Research,
> > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> > Austin Tx.
> > Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
> >
> > ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
> >
> > were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> > questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> > wise."
> > [David Poyer, The Command]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Dan Beaver" <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > 01/07/2008 07:59 AM
> > Please respond to
> > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > To
> > <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > cc
> >
> > Subject
> > [bksvol-discuss] Baen books again - how do we submit them?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about
> > submitting them. The Baen books I have read none of them had page
> > breaks
> > or
> > page numbers and no Copyright info included.
> >
> > Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work on?
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
> > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list
> >
> > of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject
> > line.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "liz halperin" <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Is it to soon to start scanning?
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:03:35 -0800
> >
> > Please scan it!
> > Liz in PDX
> >
> > Liz Halperin
> > Portland, OR
> > lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Anastasia
> > Saridakis
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 6:46 AM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Is it to soon to start scanning?
> >
> > I did some research and I found 2 different books on the VA Tech
> > tragedy. I
> > am from MD and my brother graduated from Tech in 2005. One of the
> > students
> > who was killed had a father who taught at the school. My brother took
> > his
> > class. This subject is very close to my heart. My question is: is it too
> > soon to put such a book on the site? Anyone on the list from the area
> > too?
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Anastasia
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try
> > it
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> >
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> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 08:09:02 -0800 (PST)
> > From: jnuttallphd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Submitted: Matrix Energetics
> >
> > Submitted nonfiction: Matrix Energetics by Richard Bartlett 2007.
> > Matrix Energetics a modern display of healing by the laying on of hands.
> > Matrix Energetics applies the principles of quantum physics as a unique
> > and effective approach to healing. This is the essence of energy
> > medicine."
> > Easy validation:
> > -headers removed
> > -page numbers validated, blank pages labeled and numbered
> > -carefully spellchecked.
> > -pages separated with page break.
> >
> > Jim Nuttall
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "solsticesinger" <solsticesinger25@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] One last submission
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 11:38:24 -0600
> >
> > The last submission for today is Miracles Happen: One Mother, One
> > Daughter,
> > one Journey by Brooke and Jean Ellison. This is in .rtf format.
> >
> > This is the story of Brooke Ellison, who was paralyzed in 1990, at the
> > age
> > of eleven, and of Jean, her mother, who became Brooke's primary
> > caregiver,
> > even going so far as to go to Harvard with her.
> >
> > Shannon
> > We are wise, not because we are women, but because we seek wisdom.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Amber" <amberanddottie@xxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 11:45:21 -0600
> >
> > yes I have a lide 70 and I love it I got my scanner online at the Cano
> > internet store Amber, G.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Monica Willyard
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 9:17 PM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> >
> > Hi. If you're looking for a small, fast scanner, you might consider
> > the Canon LIde scanners. I have used them for years, and they work well.
> > I have owned a LiDe 30 and a LiDe 70, and both of them have served me
> > well. The LiDe 30 scanned over a thousand books for me before it died
> > after around five years of almost daily use. The software that comes
> > with this line of scanners stays out of the way and doesn't interfere
> > with Kurzweil in any way. I bought mine from Office Depot, and Staples
> > has these scanners too. This scanner is light and slim enough to fit
> > into a laptop bag, so it can travel with you if you're in school or want
> > to scan a reference book at your library. I'm interested to see what
> > others will recommend for you. I hope this helps.
> >
> > Monica Willyard
> >
> >
> > Siobhan wrote:
> > Hi all. I'm ditching my old epson, and would rather not use them
> > again. they're ok for printers, but I can't instal the one I had with
> > out help, so unless epson wised up, I don't want to get another one.
> > I'm not a brand hog, I just want a fast scan using k1000 not a huge one
> > so it won't take up room, pretty quiet, and not that expensive.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit
> > From: james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 12:50:35 -0500
> >
> > Hi Guido,
> > Are some of the page breaks hard ones and some soft perhaps? What does
> > it
> > look like when you use Control+Shift+8 and use JAWS to look at the
> > character codes for the page breaks?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
> >
> > "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> > the
> > world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Guido Corona"
> >
> > <guidoc@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> > m>
> > To
> > Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > bksvol-discuss-bo
> > cc
> > unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > g
> > Subject
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books
> >
> > again - how do we submit them?
> >
> > 01/07/2008 11:01
> >
> > AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> >
> > bksvol-discuss@fr
> >
> > eelists.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > All, I have just downloaded:
> >
> >
> > 1812: The Rivers of War by Eric Flint,
> >
> >
> > from the Baen Free library site in unzipped RTF format. The book
> > contains
> > a valid copyright notice, an ISBN, specifies that this is a mass
> > market
> > edition--meaning it is the etext of a paperback, and it appears to
> > sport
> > page breaks of some kind. MS Word reports a total of 411 pages,
> > while
> > Kurzweil 1000 reports just under 250 pages. I suspect that the
> > document
> > may not use standard page breaks for pagination. If this were the
> > case,
> > some editors may not detect page breaks at all.
> >
> >
> > Guido
> >
> >
> >
> > Guido Dante Corona
> > IBM Research,
> > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> > Austin Tx.
> > Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
> >
> > ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
> > were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> > questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> > wise."
> > [David Poyer, The Command]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Dan Beaver"
> >
> > <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > Sent by:
> > To
> > bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelist <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > s.org
> > cc
> >
> >
> >
> > Subject
> > 01/07/2008 07:59 AM [bksvol-discuss] Baen books
> >
> > again - how do we submit them?
> >
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> >
> > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about
> > submitting them. The Baen books I have read none of them had page
> > breaks
> > or
> > page numbers and no Copyright info included.
> >
> > Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work on?
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
> > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list
> > of
> > available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> > From: Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 11:55:44 -0600
> >
> > It is worth pointing out that Canon Light scanners use CIS image
> > sensors.
> > This sensors are not quite as good as the CCD sensors employed in larger
> >
> > scanners; they frequently yield slightly noisy images that have the
> > additional tendency to fall apart towards the spine of the book because
> > of
> > poor depth of field. These in turn yield less accurate OCR conversions.
> >
> > Bottom line is that while light scanners are great for portability,
> > bigger
> > / non portable scanners with CCD imagers are more accurate and in the
> >
> > end may save editing/validation time.
> > G.
> >
> >
> > Guido Dante Corona
> > IBM Research,
> > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> > Austin Tx.
> > Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
> >
> > ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
> >
> > were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> > questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> > wise."
> > [David Poyer, The Command]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Amber" <amberanddottie@xxxxxxx>
> > Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > 01/07/2008 11:45 AM
> > Please respond to
> > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > To
> > <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > cc
> >
> > Subject
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > yes I have a lide 70 and I love it I got my scanner online at the Cano
> > internet store Amber, G.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Monica Willyard
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 9:17 PM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> >
> > Hi. If you're looking for a small, fast scanner, you might consider the
> > Canon LIde scanners. I have used them for years, and they work well. I
> > have owned a LiDe 30 and a LiDe 70, and both of them have served me
> > well.
> > The LiDe 30 scanned over a thousand books for me before it died after
> > around five years of almost daily use. The software that comes with this
> >
> > line of scanners stays out of the way and doesn't interfere with
> > Kurzweil
> > in any way. I bought mine from Office Depot, and Staples has these
> > scanners too. This scanner is light and slim enough to fit into a laptop
> >
> > bag, so it can travel with you if you're in school or want to scan a
> > reference book at your library. I'm interested to see what others will
> > recommend for you. I hope this helps.
> >
> > Monica Willyard
> >
> >
> > Siobhan wrote:
> > Hi all. I'm ditching my old epson, and would rather not use them again.
> >
> > they're ok for printers, but I can't instal the one I had with out help,
> >
> > so unless epson wised up, I don't want to get another one. I'm not a
> > brand hog, I just want a fast scan using k1000 not a huge one so it
> > won't
> > take up room, pretty quiet, and not that expensive.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 13:15:00 -0500 (EST)
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Star Wars books
> > From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > At the end of the Star Wars book I just validated is a list of other
> > Star
> > Wars books. I thought I'd post the list, and what I see, at a quick
> > glance, that Bookshare already has. If some Star Wars fan sees one they
> > fancy that we don't have, maybe someone will be moved to scan it.
> > Offhand, I notice we have book 3 of the Corellian series, but not 1 or
> > 2.
> >
> > Ignore the page numbers that are still in the list.
> >
> >
> > Bookshare has:
> > New Rebellion
> > Rogue Squadron #1
> > The Approaching Storm
> > Showdown at Centerpoint (book 3 in Corellian series)
> > The Truce at Bakura
> > Heir to the Empire
> > Dark Force Rising
> > The Last Command
> >
> >
> >
> > THE TRUCE AT BAKURA by Kathy Tyers
> > Setting: Immediately after Return of the Jedi
> > The day after his climactic battle with Emperor Palpatine and the
> > sacrifice of his father, Darth Vader, who died saving his life, Luke
> > Skywalker helps recover an Imperial drone ship bearing a startling
> > message
> > intended for the Emperor. It is a distress signal from the far-off
> > Imperial outpost of Bakura, which is under attack by an alien invasion
> > force, the Ssi-ruuk. Leia sees a rescue mission as an opportunity to
> > achieve a diplomatic victory for the Rebel Alliance, even if it means
> > fighting alongside former Imperials. But Luke receives a vision from
> > Obi-Wan Kenohi revealing that the stakes are even higher: the invasion
> > at
> > Bakura threatens everything the Rebels have won at such great cost.
> >
> > STAR WARS: X-WING
> > by Michael A. Stackpole
> > ROGUE SQUADRON
> > WEDGE'S GAMBLE
> > THE KRYTOS TRAP
> > THE BACTA WAR
> > Setting: Three years after Return of the Jedi
> > Inspired by X-wing, the bestselling computer game from LucasArts
> > Entertainment Co., this exciting series chronicles the further
> > adventures
> > of the most feared and fearless fighting force in the galaxy. A new
> > generation of X-wing pilots, led by Commander Wedge Antilles, is
> > combating
> > the remnants of the Empire still left after the events of the STAR WARS
> > movies. Here are novels full of explosive space action, nonstop
> > adventure,
> > and the special brand of wonder known as STAR WARS.
> > In this very early scene, young Corellian pilot Corran Horn faces a
> > tough
> > challenge fast enough to get his heart pounding- and this is
> >
> > 391
> >
> > only a simulation! [P.S.: "Whistler" is Corran's R2 axtnimech droid]:
> > The Corellian brought his proton torpedo targeting program up and locked
> > on to the TIE. It tried (o break (he lock, but turbolasur fire from the
> > Komlev boxed it in. Corran's heads-up display went red and he triggered
> > the torpedo. "Scratch one eyeball."
> > The missile shot straight in at the fighter, but the pilot broke hard to
> > port and away, causing the missile to overshoot the target. Nice flying!
> > Corran brought his X-wing over and started down to loop in behind the
> > TIE,
> > but as he did so. the TIE vanished from his forward screen and
> > reappeared
> > in his aft are. Yanking the stick hard to the right and pulling it back,
> > Corran wrestled the X-wing up and to starboard, then inverted and rolled
> > out to the left.
> > A laser shot jolted a tremor through the simulator's couch. Lucky thing
> > I
> > had all shields aft! Corran reinforced them with energy from his lasers,
> > then evened them out fore and aft. Jinking the fighter right and left,
> > he
> > avoided laser shots coming in from behind, but they all came in far
> > closer
> > than he liked.
> > He knew Jacc had been in the bomber, and Jacc was the only pilot in the
> > unit who could have stayed with him. Except for our leader. Corran
> > smiled
> > broadly. Coming to see how good I really am. Commander Antilles? Let me
> > give you a clinic. "Make sure you're in there solid, Whistler, because
> > we're going for a little ride."
> > Corran refused to let the R2's moan slow him down. A snap-roll brought
> > the
> > X-wing up on its port wing. Pulling back on the stick yanked the
> > fighter's
> > nose up away from the original line of flight. The TIE stayed with him,
> > then tightened up on the arc to close distance. Corran then rolled
> > another
> > ninety degrees and continued the turn into a dive. Throttling back,
> > Corran
> > hung in the dive for three seconds, then hauled back hard on the stick
> > and
> > cruised up into the TIE fighter's aft.
> > The X-wing's laser fire missed wide to the right as the TIE cut to the
> > left. Corran kicked his speed up to full and broke with the TIE. He let
> > the X-wing rise above the plane of the break, then put the fighter
> > through
> > a twisting roll that ate up enough time to bring him again into the
> > TIE's
> > rear. The TIE snapped to the right and Corran looped out left.
> > He watched the tracking display as the distance between them grew to be
> > a
> > kilometer and a half, then slowed, fine, you want to go nose to nose? I
> > 've got shields and you don't. If Commander Antilles wanted to commit
> > virtual suicide, Corran was happy to oblige him. He tugged
> >
> > 392
> >
> > the stick back to his sternum and rolled out in an inversion loop.
> > Coming
> > at you!
> > The two starfighters closed swiftly. Corran centered his foe in the
> > crosshairs and waited for a dead shot. Without shields the TIE fighter
> > would die with one burst, and Corran wanted the kill to be clean. His
> > HUD
> > flicked green as the TIE juked in and out of the center, then locked
> > green
> > as they closed.
> > The TIE started firing at maximum range and scored hits. At that
> > distance
> > the lasers did no real damage against the shields, prompting Corran to
> > wonder why Wedge was wasting the energy. Then, as the HUD's green color
> > started to flicker, realization dawned. The bright bursts on the shields
> > are a distraction to my targeting! I better kill him now!
> > Corran tightened down on the trigger button, sending red laser needles
> > stabbing out at the closing TIE fighter. He couldn't tell if he had hit
> > anything. Lights flashed in the cockpit and Whistler started screeching
> > furiously. Corran's main monitor went black, his shields were down, and
> > his weapons controls were dead.
> > The pilot looked left and right. "Where is he, Whistler?"
> > The monitor in front of him flickered to life and a diagnostic report
> > began to scroll by. Bloodred bordered the damage reports. "Scanners,
> > out;
> > lasers, out; shields, out; engine, out! I'm a wallowing Hutt just
> > hanging
> > here in space."
> >
> > THE COURTSHIP OF PRINCESS LEIA
> > by Dave Wolverton Setting: Four years after Return of the Jedi
> > One of the most interesting developments in Bantam's Star Wars novels is
> > that in their storyline. Han Solo and Princess Leia start a family. This
> > tale reveals how the couple originally got together. Wishing to
> > strengthen
> > the fledgling New Republic by bringing in powerful allies, Leia opens
> > talks with the Hopes consortium of more than sixty worlds. But the
> > consortium is ruled by the Queen Mother, who, to Han's dismay, wants
> > Leia
> > to marry her son. Prince holder. Before this action-packed story is
> > over,
> > Luke will join forces with holder against a group of Force-trained
> > "witches" and face a deadly foe.
> >
> > 393
> >
> > HEIR TO THE EMPIRE DARK FORCE RISING THE LAST COMMAND
> > by Timothy Zahn
> > Setting: Five years after Return of the Jedi
> > This bestselling trilogy introduces two legendary forces of evil into
> > the
> > Star Wars literary pantheon. Grand Admiral Thrawn has taken control of
> > the
> > Imperial fleet in the years since the destruction of the Death Star, and
> > the mysterious Joruus C'baoth is a fearsome Jedi Master who has been
> > seduced by the dark side. Han and Leia have now been married for about a
> > year, and as the story begins, she is pregnant with twins. Thrawn's plan
> > is to crush the Rebellion and resurrect the Empire's New Order with
> > C'baoth's help--and in return, the Dark Master will get Han and Leia 's
> > Jedi children to mold as he wishes. For as readers of this magnificent
> > trilogy will see, Luke Skywalker is not the last of the old Jedi. He is
> > the first of the new.
> > The Jedi Academy Trilogy:
> > JEDISEARCH
> > DARK APPRENTICE
> > CHAMPIONS OF THE FORCE
> > by Kevin J. Anderson Setting: Seven years after Return of the Jedi
> > In order to assure the continuation of the Jedi Knights, Luke Skywalker
> > has decided to start a training facility: a Jedi Academy. He will gather
> > force-sensitive students who show potential as prospective Jedi and
> > serve
> > as their mentor, as Jedi Masters Obi-Wan Kenohi and Yoda did for him.
> > Han
> > and Leia's twins are now toddlers, and there is a third Jedi child: the
> > infant Anakin, named after Luke and Leia's father. In this trilogy, we
> > discover the existence of a powerful imperial doomsday weapon, the
> > horrifying Sun Crusher--which will soon become the centerpiece of a
> > titanic struggle between Luke Skywalker and his most brilliant Jedi
> > Academy student, who is delving dangerously into the dark side.
> >
> > 394
> >
> > CHILDREN OF THE JEDI by Barbara Hambly
> > Setting: Eight years after Return of the Jedi
> > The Star Wars characters face a menace from the glory days of the Empire
> > when a thirty-year-old automated Imperial Dreadnought comes to life and
> > begins its grim mission: to gather forces and annihilate a
> > long-forgotten
> > stronghold of Jedi children. When Luke is whisked onboard, he begins to
> > communicate with the brave Jedi Knight who paralyzed the ship decades
> > ago,
> > and gave her life in the process. Now she is part of the vessel,
> > existing
> > in its artificial intelligence core, and guiding Luke through one of the
> > most unusual adventures he has ever had.
> > In this scene, Luke discovers that an evil presence is gathering, one
> > that
> > will force him to join the battle:
> > Like See-Threepio, Nichos Marr sat in the outer room of the suite to
> > which
> > Cray had been assigned, in the power-down mode that was the droid
> > equivalent of rest. Like Threepio, at the sound of Luke's almost
> > noiseless
> > tread he turned his head, aware of his presence.
> > "Luke?" Cray had equipped him with the most sensitive vocal modulators,
> > and the word was calibrated to a whisper no louder than the rustle of
> > the
> > blueleaves massed outside the windows. He rose, and crossed to where
> > Luke
> > stood, the dull silver of his arms and shoulders a phantom gleam in the
> > stray flickers of light. "What is it?"
> > "I don't know." They retreated to the small dining area where Luke had
> > earlier probed his mind, and Luke stretched up to pin back a corner of
> > the
> > lamp-sheath, letting a slim triangle of butter-colored light fall on the
> > purple of the vulwood tabletop. "A dream. A premonition, maybe." It was
> > on
> > his lips to ask, Do you dream? but he remembered the ghastly, imageless
> > darkness in Nichos's mind, and didn't. He wasn't sure if his pupil was
> > aware of the difference from his human perception and knowledge, aware
> > of
> > just exactly what he'd lost when his consciousness, his self, had been
> > transferred.
> > In the morning Luke excused himself from the expedition Tomla El had
> > organized with Nichos and Cray to the Falls of Dessiar, one of the
> > places
> > on Ithor most renowned for its beauty and peace. When they left he
> > sought
> > out Umwaw Moolis, and the tall herd leader listened gravely to his less
> > than logical request and promised to put matters in train to fulfill it.
> > Then Luke descended to the House of the Healers, where Drub McKumb lay,
> > sedated far beyond pain but with all the perceptions of agony and
> > nightmare still howling in his mind.
> >
> > 395
> >
> > "Kill you!" He heaved himself at the restraints, blue eyes glaring
> > furiously as he groped and scrabbled at Luke with his clawed hands.
> > "It's
> > all poison! I see you! I see the dark light all around you! You're him!
> > You're him!" His back bent like a bow; the sound of his shrieking was
> > like
> > something being ground out of him by an infernal mangle.
> > Luke had been through the darkest places of the universe and of his own
> > mind, had done and experienced greater evil than perhaps any man had
> > known
> > on the road the Force had dragged him . . . Still, it was hard not to
> > turn
> > away.
> > "We even tried yarrock on him last night," explained the Healer in
> > charge,
> > a slightly built Ithoriiin beautifully tabby-striped green and yellow
> > under her simple tabard of purple linen. "But apparently the earlier
> > doses
> > that brought him enough lucidity to reach here from his point of origin
> > oversensitized his system. We'll try again in four or five days."
> > Luke gazed down into the contorted, grimacing face.
> > "As you can see," the Healer said, "the internal perception of pain and
> > fear is slowly lessening. It's down to ninety-three percent of what it
> > was
> > when he was first brought in. Not much, I know, but something."
> > "Him! Him! HIM!" Foam spattered the old man's stained gray beard.
> > Who?
> > "I wouldn't advise attempting any kind of mindlink until it's at least
> > down to fifty percent. Master Skywalker."
> > "No," said Luke softly.
> > Kill you all. And, They are gathering . . .
> > "Do you have recordings of everything he's said?"
> > "Oh, yes." The big coppery eyes blinked assent. "The transcript is
> > available through the monitor cubicle down the hall. We could make
> > nothing
> > of them. Perhaps they will mean something to you."
> > They didn't. Luke listened to them all, the incoherent groans and
> > screams,
> > the chewed fragments of words that could be only guessed at, and now and
> > again the clear disjointed cries: "Solo! Solo! Can you hear me? Children
> > .
> > . . Evil . . . Gathering here . . . Kill you all!"
> >
> > 396
> >
> > DARKSABER by Kevin J. Anderson Setting: Immediately thereafter
> > Not long after Children of the Jedi, Luke and Han learn that evil Hutts
> > are building a reconstruction of the original Death Star--and that the
> > Empire is still alive, in the form ofDaala, who has joined forces with
> > Pellaeon, former second in command to the feared Grand Admiral Thrawn.
> > In
> > this early scene, Luke has returned to the home of Obi-Wan Kenobi on
> > Tatooine to try and consult a long-gone mentor:
> > He stood anxious and alone, feeling like a prodigal son outside the
> > ramshackle, collapsed hut that had once been the home of Obi-Wan Kenobi.
> > Luke swallowed and stepped forward, his footsteps crunching in the
> > silence. He had not been here in many years. The door had fallen off its
> > hinges; part of the clay front wall had fallen in. Boulders and crumbled
> > adobe jammed the entrance. A pair of small, screeching desert rodents
> > snapped at him and fled for cover; Luke ignored them.
> > Gingerly, he ducked low and stepped into the home of his first mentor.
> > Luke stood in the middle of the room breathing deeply, turning around,
> > trying to sense the presence he desperately needed to see. This was the
> > place where Obi-Wan Kenobi had told Luke of the Force. Here, the old man
> > had first given Luke his lightsaber and hinted at the truth about his
> > father, "from a certain point of view," dispelling the diversionary
> > story
> > that Uncle Owen had told, at the same time planting seeds of his own
> > deceptions.
> > "Ben," he said and closed his eyes, calling out with his mind as well as
> > his voice. He tried to penetrate the invisible walls of the Force and
> > reach to the luminous being of Obi-Wan Kenobi who had visited him
> > numerous
> > times, before saying he could never speak with Luke again.
> > "Ben, I need you," Luke said. Circumstances had changed. He could think
> > of
> > no other way past the obstacles he faced. Obi-Wan had to answer. It
> > wouldn't take long, but it could give him the key he needed with all his
> > heart.
> > Luke paused and listened and sensed- -
> > But felt nothing. If he could not summon Obi-Wan's spirit here in the
> > empty dwelling where the old man had lived in exile for so many years,
> > Luke didn't believe he could find his former teacher ever again.
> > He echoed the words Leia had used more than a decade earlier,
> >
> > 397
> >
> > beseeching him, "Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi," Luke whispered, "you're my
> > only
> > hope."
> > THE CRYSTAL STAR
> > by Vonda N. Mcintyre
> > Setting: Ten years after Return of the Jedi
> > Leia 's three children have been kidnapped. That horrible fact is made
> > worse by Leia's realization that she can no longer sense her children
> > through the Force! While she, Artoo-Detoo, and Chewbacca trail the
> > kidnappers, Luke and Han discover a planet that is suffering strange
> > quantum effects from a nearby star. Slowly freezing into a perfect
> > crystal
> > and disrupting the Force, the star is blunting Luke's power and
> > crippling
> > the Millennium Falcon. These strands converge in an apocalyptic threat
> > not
> > only to the fate of the New Republic, but to the universe itself.
> >
> > The Black Fleet Crisis
> > BEFORE THE STORM
> > SHIELD OF LIES
> > TYRANT'S TEST
> > by Michael P. Kube-McDowell
> > Setting: Twelve years after Return of the Jedi
> > Long after setting up the hard-won New Republic, yesterday's Rebels have
> > become today's administrators and diplomats. But the peace is not to
> > last
> > for long. A restless Luke must journey to his mother's homeworld in a
> > desperate quest to find her people; Lando seizes a mysterious spacecraft
> > with unimaginable weapons of destruction; and waiting in the wings is an
> > horrific battle fleet under the control of a ruthless leader bent on a
> > genocidal war.
> > Here is an opening scene from Before the Storm:
> > In the pristine silence of space, the Fifth Battle Group of the New
> > Republic Defense Fleet blossomed over the planet Bessimir like a
> > beautiful, deadly flower.
> > The formation of capital ships sprang into view with startling
> > suddenness,
> > trailing fire-white wakes of twisted space and bristling with weapons.
> > Angular Star Destroyers guarded fat-hulled fleet carriers, while the
> > assault cruisers, their mirror finishes gleaming, took the point.
> >
> > 398
> >
> > A halo of smaller ships appeared at the same time. The fighters among
> > them
> > quickly deployed in a spherical defensive screen. As the Star Destroyers
> > firmed up their formation, their flight decks quickly spawned scores of
> > additional fighters.
> > At the same time, the carriers and cruisers began to disgorge the
> > bombers,
> > transports, and gunboats they had ferried to the battle. There was no
> > reason to risk the loss of one fully loaded--a lesson the Republic had
> > learned in pain. At Orinda, the commander of the fleet carrier Endurance
> > had kept his pilots waiting in the launch bays, to protect the smaller
> > craft from Imperial fire as long as possible. They were still there when
> > Endurance took the brunt of a Super Star Destroyer attack and vanished
> > in
> > a ball of metal fire.
> > Before long more than two hundred warships, large and small, were
> > bearing
> > down on Bessimir and its twin moons. But the terrible, restless power of
> > the armada could be heard and felt only by the ships' crews. The silence
> > of the approach was broken only on the fleet comm channels, which had
> > crackled to life in the first moments with encoded bursts of noise and
> > cryptic ship-to-ship chatter.
> > At the center of the formation of great vessels was the flagship of the
> > Fifth Battle Group, the fleet carrier Intrepid, She was so new from the
> > yards at Hakassi that her corridors still recked of scaling compound and
> > cleaning solvent. Her huge realspace thruster engines still sang with
> > the
> > high-pitched squeal that the engine crews called "the baby's cry."
> > It would take more than a year for the mingled scents of the crew to
> > displace the chemical smells from the first impressions of visitors. But
> > after a hundred more hours under way, her engines' vibrations would drop
> > two octaves, to the reassuring thrum of a seasoned thruster bank.
> > On Intrepid'* bridge, a tall Dornean in general's uniform paced along an
> > arc of command stations equipped with large monitors. His eye-folds were
> > swollen and fanned by an unconscious Dornean defensive reflex, and his
> > leathery face was flushed purple by concern. Before the deployment was
> > even a minute old, Etahn A'baht's first command had been bloodied.
> > The fleet tender Afiazi had overshot its jump, coming out of hyperspace
> > too close to Bessimir and too late for its crew to recover from the
> > error.
> > Etahn A'baht watched the bright flare of light in the upper atmosphere
> > from Intrepid^s forward viewstation, knowing that it meant six young men
> > were dead.
> >
> > 399
> >
> > THE NEW REBELLION by Kristine Kathryn Rusch
> > Setting: Thirteen years after Return of the Jedi
> > Victorious though the New Republic may be. there is still no end to the
> > threats to its continuing existence- this novel explores the price of
> > keeping the peace. First, somewhere in the galaxy, millions suddenly
> > perish in a blinding instant of pain. Then, as Leia prepares to address
> > the Senate on Coruscant, a horrifying event changes the governmental
> > equation in a flash.
> > Here is that latter calamity, in an early scene from The New Rebellion:
> > An explosion rocked the Chamber, flinging Leia into the air. She flew
> > backward and slammed onto a desk, her entire body shuddering with the
> > power of her hit. Blood and shrapnel rained around her. Smoke and dust
> > rose, filling the room with a grainy darkness. She could hear nothing.
> > With a shaking hand, she touched the side of her face. Warmth stained
> > her
> > cheeks and her earlobes. The ringing would start soon. The explosion was
> > loud enough to affect her eardrums.
> > Emergency glow panels seared the gloom. She could feel rather than hear
> > pieces of the crystal ceiling fall to the ground. A guard had landed
> > beside her, his head tilted at an unnatural angle. She grabbed his
> > blaster. She had to get out. She wasn't certain if the attack had come
> > from within or from without. Wherever it had come from, she had to make
> > certain no other bombs would go off.
> > The force of the explosion had affected her balance. She crawled over
> > bodies, some still moving, as she made her way to the stairs. The
> > slightest movement made her dizzy and nauseous, but she ignored the
> > feelings. She had to.
> > A face loomed before hers. Streaked with dirt and blood, helmet askew,
> > she
> > recognized him as one of the guards who had been with her since
> > Alderaan.
> > Your Highness, he mouthed, and she couldn't read the rest. She shook her
> > head at him, gasping at the increased dizziness, and kept going.
> > Finally she reached the stairs. She used the remains of a desk to get to
> > her feet. Her gown was soaked in blood, sticky, and clinging to her
> > legs.
> > She held the blaster in front of her, wishing that she could hear. If
> > she
> > could hear, she could defend herself.
> > A hand reached out of the rubble beside her. She whirled, faced it,
> > watched as Meido pulled himself out. His slender features were covered
> > with dirt, but he appeared unharmed. He saw her blaster and
> >
> > 400
> >
> > cringed. She nodded once to acknowledge him, and kept moving. The guard
> > was flanking her.
> > More rubble dropped from the ceiling. She crouched, hands over her head
> > to
> > protect herself. Small pebbles pelted her, and the floor shivered as
> > large
> > chunks of tile fell. Dust rose, choking her. She coughed, feeling it,
> > but
> > not able to hear it. Within an instant, the Hall had gone from a place
> > of
> > ceremonial comfort to a place of death.
> > The image of the death's-head mask rose in front of her again, this time
> > from memory. She had known this was going to happen. Somewhere, from
> > some
> > part of her Force-sensitive brain, she had seen this. Luke said that
> > Jedi
> > were sometimes able to see the future. But she had never completed her
> > training. She wasn't a Jcdi.
> > But she was close enough.
> >
> > The Corellian Trilogy:
> > AMBUSH AT CORELLIA
> > ASSAULT AT SELONIA
> > SHOWDOWN AT CENTERPOINT
> > by Roger MacBride Alien
> > Setting: Fourteen years after Return of the Jedi
> > This trilogy takes us to Corellia, Him Solo s homcworld. which Han has
> > not
> > visited in quite some time. A trade summit brings Han, Leia, and the
> > children- -now developing their own clear personalities and
> > instinctively
> > learning more about their innate skills in the Force--into the middle of
> > a
> > situation that most closely resembles a burning jime. The Corellian
> > system
> > is on the brink of civil war, there are New Republic intelligence agents
> > on a mysterious mission which even Han does not understand, and worst of
> > all, a fanatical rebel leader has his hands on a superweapon of
> > unimaginable power- -and just wait until you find out who that leader
> > is!
> > Here is an early scene from Ambush that gives you a wonderful look at
> > the
> > growing Solo children (the twins are Jacen and Jaina, and their little
> > brother is Anakin):
> > Anakin plugged the board into the innards of the droid and pressed a
> > button. The droid's black, boxy body shuddered awake, it drew in its
> > wheels to stand up a bit taller, its status lights lit, and it made a
> > sort
> > of triple beep. "That's good," he said, and pushed the button again. The
> > droid's status lights went out, and its body slumped down again. Anakin
> > picked up the next piece, a motivation actuator. He frowned at
> >
> > 401
> >
> > it as he turned it over in his hands. He shook his head. "That's not
> > good," he announced.
> > "What's not good?" Jaina asked.
> > "This thing," Anakin said, handing her the actuator. "Can't you telfi
> > The
> > insides part is all melty."
> > Jaina and Jacen exchanged a look. "The outside looks okay," Jaina said,
> > giving the part to her brother. "How can he tell what the inside of it
> > looks like? It's sealed shut when they make it."
> > Anakin, still sitting on the floor, took the device from his brother and
> > frowned at it again. He turned it over and over in his hands, and then
> > held it over his head and looked at it as if he were holding it up to
> > the
> > light. "There," he said, pointing a chubby finger at one point on the
> > unmarked surface. "In there is the bad part." He rearranged himself to
> > sit
> > cross-legged, put the actuator in his lap, and put his right index
> > finger
> > over the "bad" part. "Fix," he said. "Fix." The dark brown outer case of
> > the actuator seemed to glow for a second with an odd blue-red light, but
> > then the glow sputtered out and Anakin pulled his finger away quickly
> > and
> > stuck it in his mouth, as if he had burned it on something.
> > "Better now?" Jaina asked.
> > "Some better," Anakin said, pulling his finger out of his mouth. "Not
> > all
> > better." He took the actuator in his hand and stood up. He opened the
> > access panel on the broken droid and plugged in the actuator. He closed
> > the door and looked expectantly at his older brother and sister.
> > "Done?" Jaina asked.
> > "Done," Anakin agreed. "But I'm not going to push the button." He backed
> > well away from the droid, sat down on the floor, and folded his arms.
> > Jacen looked at his sister.
> > "Not me," she said. "This was your idea."
> > Jacen stepped forward to the droid, reached out to push the power button
> > from as far away as he could, and then stepped hurriedly back.
> > Once again, the droid shuddered awake, rattling a bit this time as it
> > did
> > so. It pulled its wheels in, lit its panel lights, and made the same
> > triple beep. But then its holocam eye viewlens wobbled back and forth,
> > and
> > its panel lights dimmed and flared. It rolled backward just a bit, and
> > then recovered itself.
> > "Good morning, young mistress and masters," it said. "How may I surge
> > you?"
> > Well, one word wrong, but so what? Jacen grinned and clapped his hands
> > and
> > rubbed them together eagerly. "Good day, droid," he said. They had done
> > it! But what to ask for first? "First tidy up this room,"
> >
> > 402
> >
> > he said. A simple task, and one that ought to serve as a good test of
> > what
> > this droid could do.
> > Suddenly the droid's overhead access door blew off and there was a flash
> > of light from its interior. A thin plume of smoke drifted out of the
> > droid. Its panel lights flared again, and then the work arm sagged
> > downward. The droid's body, softened by heat, sagged in on itself and
> > drooped to the floor. The floor and walls and ceiling of the playroom
> > were
> > supposed to be fireproof, but nonetheless the floor under the droid
> > darkened a bit, and the ceiling turned black. The ventilators kicked on
> > high automatically, and drew the smoke out of the room. After a moment
> > they shut themselves off, and the room was silent.
> > The three children stood, every bit as frozen to the spot as the droid
> > was, absolutely stunned. It was Anakin who recovered first. He walked
> > cautiously toward the droid and looked at it carefully, being sure not
> > to
> > get too close or touch it. "Really melty now," he announced, and then
> > wandered off to the other side of the room to play with his blocks.
> > The twins looked at the droid, and then at each other.
> > "We're dead," Jaeen announced, surveying the wreckage.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Star Wars books
> > From: james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 13:26:06 -0500
> >
> > Hi,
> > I'd be glad to validate when I see any of these.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
> >
> > "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> > the
> > world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Is it to soon to start scanning?
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 13:30:24 -0500
> >
> > Nah, sometimes having books about something like that Stasia can help
> > with
> > the grieving process.
> >
> >
> > Shelley L. Rhodes M.A., VRT, CTVI
> > and Guinevere, Golden lady Guide
> > juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
> > Graduate Alumni Association Board
> > www.guidedogs.com
> >
> > More than Any other time, When i hold a beloved book in my hand, my
> > limitations fall from me, my spirit is free.
> > - Helen Keller
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Anastasia Saridakis" <anamatia81@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 9:45 AM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Is it to soon to start scanning?
> >
> >
> > I did some research and I found 2 different books on the VA Tech
> > tragedy. I
> > am from MD and my brother graduated from Tech in 2005. One of the
> > students
> > who was killed had a father who taught at the school. My brother took
> > his
> > class. This subject is very close to my heart. My question is: is it too
> >
> > soon to put such a book on the site? Anyone on the list from the area
> > too?
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Anastasia
> >
> >
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
> > From: Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 13:26:12 -0600
> >
> > It seems JAWS sees page breaks only in the front matter, but not in the
> >
> > body of the book. it is possible that page breaks in the body of the
> > book
> > may be soft breaks induced by K1K and MS Word at different places.
> > G.
> >
> >
> > Guido Dante Corona
> > IBM Research,
> > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> > Austin Tx.
> > Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
> >
> > ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
> >
> > were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> > questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> > wise."
> > [David Poyer, The Command]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > 01/07/2008 11:50 AM
> > Please respond to
> > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > To
> > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > cc
> >
> > Subject
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Guido,
> > Are some of the page breaks hard ones and some soft perhaps? What does
> > it
> > look like when you use Control+Shift+8 and use JAWS to look at the
> > character codes for the page breaks?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
> >
> > "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> > the
> > world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Guido Corona"
> > <guidoc@xxxxxxxxx
> > m>
> > To
> >
> > Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > bksvol-discuss-bo
> > cc
> >
> > unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > g
> > Subject
> >
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books
> > again - how do we submit them?
> > 01/07/2008 11:01
> > AM
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> > bksvol-discuss@fr
> > eelists.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > All, I have just downloaded:
> >
> >
> > 1812: The Rivers of War by Eric Flint,
> >
> >
> > from the Baen Free library site in unzipped RTF format. The book
> > contains
> > a valid copyright notice, an ISBN, specifies that this is a mass
> > market
> > edition--meaning it is the etext of a paperback, and it appears to
> > sport
> > page breaks of some kind. MS Word reports a total of 411 pages,
> > while
> > Kurzweil 1000 reports just under 250 pages. I suspect that the
> > document
> > may not use standard page breaks for pagination. If this were the
> > case,
> > some editors may not detect page breaks at all.
> >
> >
> > Guido
> >
> >
> >
> > Guido Dante Corona
> > IBM Research,
> > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> > Austin Tx.
> > Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
> >
> > ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
> > were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> > questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> > wise."
> > [David Poyer, The Command]
> >
> >
> >
> > "Dan Beaver"
> > <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent by:
> > To
> >
> > bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelist <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > s.org
> > cc
> >
> >
> >
> > Subject
> >
> > 01/07/2008 07:59 AM [bksvol-discuss] Baen books
> > again - how do we submit them?
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about
> > submitting them. The Baen books I have read none of them had page
> > breaks
> > or
> > page numbers and no Copyright info included.
> >
> > Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work on?
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
> > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list
> >
> > of
> > available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
> > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list
> >
> > of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject
> > line.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Silvara" <silvara@xxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: pages missing
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 14:31:26 -0500
> >
> > Savage skies is from the same person as well. But the scan look pretty
> > good
> > that's why I am bothering with it. Thanks for getting it.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Grandma Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:03 AM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: pages missing
> >
> >
> >> Grace,
> >>
> >> I put in a request for Savage Skies. The other two are
> >> not in my lbiraries. I see from checking Amazon that
> >> they are Harlequin romances. If they were submitted by
> >> you-know-who and are in the shape that you describe,
> >> the best thing to do, though they sound like delicious
> >> reading, is to reject them. If Savage Skies is
> >> submitted by the same person, I suggest you reject
> >> that, too, and if you do, please let me know and I'll
> >> cancel the request.
> >>
> >> G.Cindy
> >>
> >> --- Silvara <silvara@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Folks:
> >>>
> >>> I am validating 3 books and all 3 have pages missing
> >>> or pages need rescanning or both.
> >>>
> >>> Savage Skies by Cassie Edwards, The Knight's
> >>> courtship by Joanne Rock and the Venetian's Mistress
> >>> by Anne Elizabeth Cree. If someone could get the
> >>> books and scan these pages then these books can
> >>> finally be off step 1.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>>
> >>> Grace
> >>
> >>
> >> WISH LIST (called Requested Additions To The Bookshare Collection)is
> >> available at
> >> http://people.delphiforums.com/jamiecalton/Book_Requests.htm
> >> http://www.friendsofbookshare.org/
> >> http://studentpages.alma.edu/~07jmyate/book_requests.htm
> >>
> >> www.jbrownell.com for miscellaneous and useful threads
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> > ________________________________________________________________________
> > ____________
> >> Looking for last minute shopping deals?
> >> Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.
> >> http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
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> > line.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit
> > From: james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 14:45:53 -0500
> >
> > Hi Guido,
> > Word has both hard and soft page breaks. Do you see both?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
> >
> > "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> > the
> > world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Guido Corona"
> >
> > <guidoc@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> > m>
> > To
> > Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > bksvol-discuss-bo
> > cc
> > unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx "Claire O'Brien"
> >
> > g <obriencm@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >
> > Subject
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books
> >
> > 01/07/2008 02:26 again - how do we submit them?
> >
> > PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> >
> > bksvol-discuss@fr
> >
> > eelists.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > It seems JAWS sees page breaks only in the front matter, but not in the
> > body of the book. it is possible that page breaks in the body of the
> > book
> > may be soft breaks induced by K1K and MS Word at different places.
> >
> > G.
> >
> >
> > Guido Dante Corona
> > IBM Research,
> > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> > Austin Tx.
> > Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
> >
> > ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
> > were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> > questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> > wise."
> > [David Poyer, The Command]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Sent by:
> >
> > bksvol-discuss-bounce@freeli
> > To
> > sts.org bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > cc
> >
> >
> > 01/07/2008 11:50 AM
> > Subject
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books
> >
> > again - how do we submit them?
> >
> > Please respond to
> >
> > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > g
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Guido,
> > Are some of the page breaks hard ones and some soft perhaps? What does
> > it
> > look like when you use Control+Shift+8 and use JAWS to look at the
> > character codes for the page breaks?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
> >
> > "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> > the
> > world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Guido Corona"
> > <guidoc@xxxxxxxxx
> > m>
> > To
> > Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > bksvol-discuss-bo
> > cc
> > unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > g
> > Subject
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books
> > again - how do we submit them?
> > 01/07/2008 11:01
> > AM
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> > bksvol-discuss@fr
> > eelists.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > All, I have just downloaded:
> >
> >
> > 1812: The Rivers of War by Eric Flint,
> >
> >
> > from the Baen Free library site in unzipped RTF format. The book
> > contains
> > a valid copyright notice, an ISBN, specifies that this is a mass market
> > edition--meaning it is the etext of a paperback, and it appears to sport
> > page breaks of some kind. MS Word reports a total of 411 pages,
> > while
> > Kurzweil 1000 reports just under 250 pages. I suspect that the document
> > may not use standard page breaks for pagination. If this were the case,
> > some editors may not detect page breaks at all.
> >
> >
> > Guido
> >
> >
> >
> > Guido Dante Corona
> > IBM Research,
> > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> > Austin Tx.
> > Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
> >
> > ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
> > were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> > questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> > wise."
> > [David Poyer, The Command]
> >
> >
> >
> > "Dan Beaver"
> > <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent by:
> > To
> > bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelist <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > s.org
> > cc
> >
> >
> > Subject
> > 01/07/2008 07:59 AM [bksvol-discuss] Baen books
> > again - how do we submit them?
> >
> > Please respond to
> > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about
> > submitting them. The Baen books I have read none of them had page
> > breaks
> > or
> > page numbers and no Copyright info included.
> >
> > Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work on?
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
> > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list
> > of
> > available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
> > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list
> > of
> > available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 15:30:48 -0500
> > From: Monica Willyard <rhyami@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Is it to soon to start scanning?
> >
> > Hi, Anastasia. If a book is on the shelves at a bookstore or library,
> > it's never too soon to get it into the collection. (smile)
> > Monica Willyard
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 12:43:21 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Michael Sestak <mlsestak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
> >
> > The book I downloaded had hard page breaks for the front pages up to the
> > first chapter, then soft page breaks for most of the rest (maybe some
> > hard page breaks between chapters). As I understand it, the bookshare
> > software does not recognize soft page breaks (actually, I don't think
> > soft page breaks exist in the file, I think word just puts them in on
> > the fly).
> > Misha
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: "james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 9:50:35 AM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
> >
> >
> > Hi Guido,
> > Are some of the page breaks hard ones and some soft perhaps? What does
> > it
> > look like when you use Control+Shift+8 and use JAWS to look at the
> > character codes for the page breaks?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
> >
> > "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> > the
> > world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Guido Corona"
> >
> > <guidoc@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> > m>
> > To
> > Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > bksvol-discuss-bo
> > cc
> > unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > g
> > Subject
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books
> >
> > again - how do we submit them?
> >
> > 01/07/2008 11:01
> >
> > AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> >
> > bksvol-discuss@fr
> >
> > eelists.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > All, I have just downloaded:
> >
> >
> > 1812: The Rivers of War by Eric Flint,
> >
> >
> > from the Baen Free library site in unzipped RTF format. The book
> > contains
> > a valid copyright notice, an ISBN, specifies that this is a mass
> > market
> > edition--meaning it is the etext of a paperback, and it appears to
> > sport
> > page breaks of some kind. MS Word reports a total of 411 pages,
> > while
> > Kurzweil 1000 reports just under 250 pages. I suspect that the
> > document
> > may not use standard page breaks for pagination. If this were the
> > case,
> > some editors may not detect page breaks at all.
> >
> >
> > Guido
> >
> >
> >
> > Guido Dante Corona
> > IBM Research,
> > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> > Austin Tx.
> > Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
> >
> > ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right
> > who
> > were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> > questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> > wise."
> > [David Poyer, The Command]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Dan Beaver"
> >
> > <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > Sent by:
> > To
> > bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelist
> > <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > s.org
> > cc
> >
> >
> >
> > Subject
> > 01/07/2008 07:59 AM [bksvol-discuss] Baen books
> >
> > again - how do we submit
> > them?
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> >
> > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about
> > submitting them. The Baen books I have read none of them had page
> > breaks
> > or
> > page numbers and no Copyright info included.
> >
> > Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work
> > on?
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
> > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a
> > list of
> > available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
> > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a
> > list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the
> > subject
> > line.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Pat Price" <patlprice@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Hooked On Books Is Back Tomorrow, Tuesday,
> > 1-8-08
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 15:47:09 -0500
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > First, let me say that I hope you had both a happy and joy filled
> > Christmas
> > and New Year celebration with those you love most.
> >
> > Now that the holidays are behind us for another year, it is time to
> > return
> > to another love we share, and that is exactly what Hooked on Books is
> > all
> > about.
> >
> > Tomorrow at 11 A.M. pacific, noon Mountain, 1 P.M. central and 2 P.M.
> > Eastern time, we will begin the new year with a new book. Let me tell
> > you
> > just a little bit about what we will be reading together.
> >
> > Karen E. Bender's debut novel, Like Normal People takes place over the
> > course of just one day, but as some days often do, it has profound and
> > long
> > lasting effects for the characters. On the day in question in this
> > novel. a
> > 48 year old mentally challenged woman decides to change her life by
> > leaving
> > her comfortable home in which she lives with her widowed mother.
> > Accompanying her on this journey is her troubled 12 year old niece. Why
> > has
> > she chosen this step? What will the two of them do while gone? How will
> > those left home both to wonder and to worry deal with this sudden
> > surprise?
> > Is it sudden at all? What will Lena and her niece discover about
> > themselves? How can life ever return to normal again? Does Lena have
> > longings and dreams to realize that will require new levels of
> > understanding and growth her mother will struggle with which to come to
> > terms? How will this affect her mother's view of her own life? How much
> > does
> > letting go and accepting change affect a mother's feeling of being
> > needed
> > and her place in the world? What does letting go cost?
> >
> > Come feel with me what Karen's characters feel! Together, Karen Bender
> > will
> > share with us what a family learns about growth and love and need, but
> > the
> > journey there will rock the foundation of life as they have known it.
> >
> > All of this can be experienced when you join us in the Friends of
> > Bookshare
> > In between The Bookends room by going to the link below.
> >
> >
> > http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rs83ce590a4853
> >
> >
> > I promise to do my part to give you a pleasurable afternoon. Relax,
> > bring a
> > hobby you can do while listening. I look forward to reading to you
> > there!
> >
> > If you have questions, please write to me at:
> > Bonnie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 15:54:52 -0500
> >
> > There appears to be some inconsistency on how books derive their page
> > numbers. Not all books have correct page breaks. I just downloaded two
> > books for comparison purposes. One had no hard page breaks, the other,
> > had
> > some hard page breaks and other soft breaks. Guido, the version you
> > downloaded, how many sections does Word report having in that file? I
> > suspect that that particular book probably has the infamous section
> > breaks
> > that FR is so fond of inserting instead of hard page breaks. That
> > probably
> > is the reason why Kurzweil 1000 decided not to like those pages too.
> >
> >
> > Prat
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Sestak
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:43 PM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
> >
> >
> >
> > The book I downloaded had hard page breaks for the front pages up to the
> > first chapter, then soft page breaks for most of the rest (maybe some
> > hard
> > page breaks between chapters). As I understand it, the bookshare
> > software
> > does not recognize soft page breaks (actually, I don't think soft page
> > breaks exist in the file, I think word just puts them in on the fly).
> >
> > Misha
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: "james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 9:50:35 AM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
> >
> > Hi Guido,
> > Are some of the page breaks hard ones and some soft perhaps? What does
> > it
> > look like when you use Control+Shift+8 and use JAWS to look at the
> > character codes for the page breaks?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
> >
> > "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> > the
> > world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Guido Corona"
> >
> > <guidoc@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> > m> To
> >
> > Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > bksvol-discuss-bo
> > cc
> > unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > g Subject
> >
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books
> >
> > again - how do we submit them?
> >
> > 01/07/2008 11:01
> >
> > AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> >
> > bksvol-discuss@fr
> >
> > eelists.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > All, I have just downloaded:
> >
> >
> > 1812: The Rivers of War by Eric Flint,
> >
> >
> > from the Baen Free library site in unzipped RTF format. The book
> > contains
> > a valid copyright notice, an ISBN, specifies that this is a mass market
> > edition--meaning it is the etext of a paperback, and it appears to sport
> > page breaks of some kind. MS Word reports a total of 411 pages,
> > while
> > Kurzweil 1000 reports just under 250 pages. I suspect that the document
> > may not use standard page breaks for pagination. If this were the case,
> > some editors may not detect page breaks at all.
> >
> >
> > Guido
> >
> >
> >
> > Guido Dante Corona
> > IBM Research,
> > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> > Austin Tx.
> > Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
> >
> > ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
> > were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> > questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> > wise."
> > [David Poyer, The Command]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Dan Beaver"
> >
> > <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > Sent by: To
> >
> > bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelist <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > s.org
> > cc
> >
> >
> >
> > Subject
> > 01/07/2008 07:59 AM [bksvol-discuss] Baen books
> >
> > again - how do we submit them?
> >
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> >
> > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about
> > submitting them. The Baen books I have read none of them had page
> > breaks
> > or
> > page numbers and no Copyright info included.
> >
> > Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work on?
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
> > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
> > From: Guido Corona <guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 15:09:18 -0600
> >
> > That's entirely possible Prat. How do we check for 'section breaks' in
> > MS
> > Word / JFW? G.
> >
> > Guido Dante Corona
> > IBM Research,
> > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> > Austin Tx.
> > Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
> >
> > ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
> >
> > were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> > questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> > wise."
> > [David Poyer, The Command]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > 01/07/2008 02:54 PM
> > Please respond to
> > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > To
> > <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > cc
> >
> > Subject
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > There appears to be some inconsistency on how books derive their page
> > numbers. Not all books have correct page breaks. I just downloaded two
> >
> > books for comparison purposes. One had no hard page breaks, the other,
> > had some hard page breaks and other soft breaks. Guido, the version you
> >
> > downloaded, how many sections does Word report having in that file? I
> > suspect that that particular book probably has the infamous section
> > breaks
> > that FR is so fond of inserting instead of hard page breaks. That
> > probably is the reason why Kurzweil 1000 decided not to like those pages
> >
> > too.
> >
> > Prat
> >
> >
> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
> > mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Sestak
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:43 PM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
> >
> > The book I downloaded had hard page breaks for the front pages up to the
> >
> > first chapter, then soft page breaks for most of the rest (maybe some
> > hard
> > page breaks between chapters). As I understand it, the bookshare
> > software
> > does not recognize soft page breaks (actually, I don't think soft page
> > breaks exist in the file, I think word just puts them in on the fly).
> >
> > Misha
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: "james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 9:50:35 AM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
> >
> > Hi Guido,
> > Are some of the page breaks hard ones and some soft perhaps? What does
> > it
> > look like when you use Control+Shift+8 and use JAWS to look at the
> > character codes for the page breaks?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
> >
> > "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> > the
> > world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Guido Corona"
> > <guidoc@xxxxxxxxx
> > m> To
> >
> > Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > bksvol-discuss-bo
> > cc
> > unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > g Subject
> >
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books
> > again - how do we submit them?
> > 01/07/2008 11:01
> > AM
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> > bksvol-discuss@fr
> > eelists.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > All, I have just downloaded:
> >
> >
> > 1812: The Rivers of War by Eric Flint,
> >
> >
> > from the Baen Free library site in unzipped RTF format. The book
> > contains
> > a valid copyright notice, an ISBN, specifies that this is a mass market
> > edition--meaning it is the etext of a paperback, and it appears to sport
> > page breaks of some kind. MS Word reports a total of 411 pages,
> > while
> > Kurzweil 1000 reports just under 250 pages. I suspect that the document
> > may not use standard page breaks for pagination. If this were the case,
> > some editors may not detect page breaks at all.
> >
> >
> > Guido
> >
> >
> >
> > Guido Dante Corona
> > IBM Research,
> > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> > Austin Tx.
> > Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
> >
> > ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
> > were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> > questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> > wise."
> > [David Poyer, The Command]
> >
> >
> >
> > "Dan Beaver"
> > <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent by: To
> >
> > bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelist <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > s.org
> > cc
> >
> >
> > Subject
> > 01/07/2008 07:59 AM [bksvol-discuss] Baen books
> > again - how do we submit them?
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about
> > submitting them. The Baen books I have read none of them had page
> > breaks
> > or
> > page numbers and no Copyright info included.
> >
> > Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work on?
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
> > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list
> >
> > of
> > available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
> > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list
> >
> > of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject
> > line.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: Ann Parsons <akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] 16 Lighthouse Road
> > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:53:06 -0500
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I was reading the Booksfortheblind list and a bookshare member
> > downloaded the book in the subj line, by Debbie Macomber. She
> > downloaded the DAISY format. She said that all she got was page
> > numbers. Has anyone read this book recently or downloaded it at all?
> > If it is indeed corrupt and not a munged download, it should probably
> > be removed or reencoded. The BRF file's fine, I downloaded that.
> >
> > TIA,
> > Ann P.
> >
> > --
> > Ann K. Parsons
> > Portal Tutoring
> > EMAIL: akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > http://www.portaltutoring.info
> > "All that is gold does not glitter,
> > Not all those who wander are lost."
> >
> > Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit
> > www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] tables converting to text Jamie's great tip
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 17:07:47 -0500
> >
> > Dear Booksharian Friends
> >
> > I'd rather not know how many hours I've struggled to replace tables with
> >
> > text. Often the columns are off and get more unmatched as the table
> > continues. Often JAWS and I have mixed results trying to read the table
> > and
> > editing it is nearly impossible, especially getting mismatched columns
> > to
> > line up properly.
> >
> > Recently Jamie sent the following instructions to the list. Her I did a
> > find
> > to locate her message and it saved me a huge amount of work on a book
> > I'll
> > be able to upload early this evening.
> >
> > Here is her short, very effective tip for converting tables to text in
> > Microsoft word.
> >
> > To convert a table in word you just make sure your cursor is in the
> > table,
> > press Alt-A for the table menu, V for convert and B for table to text.
> >
> > This tip has made editing so fast and easy and the resulting
> > information in
> > text format conveyed the table information exactly. It is very hard for
> > some
> > people to visually skip the wide distance between columns in some tables
> > and
> > remain on the same line. In text, these columns can be separated by
> > commas
> > or dashes or whatever.
> >
> > When you press b, in the last step of Jamie's tip, you get a dialogue
> > box
> > where you can choose how you want to separate columns with tabs, etc.
> > There
> > is even a place to type in how you want to mark the gap between or start
> > of
> > information in the next column.
> >
> > I went to Jakes site to see if Jamie's tip, or one like it was there and
> >
> > didn't find it. I don't know if my link is as up to date as it should
> > be,
> > but her tip really belongs on the list of Jakes tips. Cindy W, you might
> >
> > also want to include this tip in the manual you are developing adding
> > information about the dialogue box which pops up when you press the b.
> >
> > Thank you, Jamie!
> >
> > Always with love,
> >
> > Lissi
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 17:09:59 -0500
> >
> > Hi Guido,
> >
> >
> > Word 2007 reports Section X of Y on the status bar if there are multiple
> > sections in a file. I don't recall 2003 reporting that info. But, try
> > Insert+PGDN (or JAWS+Page down). I must say Word 2007 is a lot better
> > at
> > reporting relevant info. If you don't find that info, try doing a
> > global
> > replace for ^b with ^m and see what's reported. If word manages to
> > replace
> > multiple occurrences, you can safely assume that it was the case. In
> > any
> > case, it doesn't hirt to replace section breaks with hard page breaks.
> > If
> > you do have multiple occurrences and manage to replace them, save the
> > file
> > and reopen it in Kurzweil 1000. Now Kurzweil 1000 should reportcorrect
> > number of pages.
> >
> >
> >
> > Prat
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Guido Corona
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:09 PM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > That's entirely possible Prat. How do we check for 'section breaks' in
> > MS
> > Word / JFW? G.
> >
> >
> > Guido Dante Corona
> > IBM Research,
> > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> > Austin Tx.
> > Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Web: <http://www.ibm.com/able> http://www.ibm.com/able
> >
> > ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
> > were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> > questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> > wise."
> > [David Poyer, The Command]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > 01/07/2008 02:54 PM
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > To
> >
> > <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >
> > cc
> >
> >
> >
> > Subject
> >
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > There appears to be some inconsistency on how books derive their page
> > numbers. Not all books have correct page breaks. I just downloaded two
> > books for comparison purposes. One had no hard page breaks, the other,
> > had
> > some hard page breaks and other soft breaks. Guido, the version you
> > downloaded, how many sections does Word report having in that file? I
> > suspect that that particular book probably has the infamous section
> > breaks
> > that FR is so fond of inserting instead of hard page breaks. That
> > probably
> > is the reason why Kurzweil 1000 decided not to like those pages too.
> >
> > Prat
> >
> >
> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
> > <mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Sestak
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:43 PM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
> >
> > The book I downloaded had hard page breaks for the front pages up to the
> > first chapter, then soft page breaks for most of the rest (maybe some
> > hard
> > page breaks between chapters). As I understand it, the bookshare
> > software
> > does not recognize soft page breaks (actually, I don't think soft page
> > breaks exist in the file, I think word just puts them in on the fly).
> >
> > Misha
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: "james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 9:50:35 AM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
> >
> > Hi Guido,
> > Are some of the page breaks hard ones and some soft perhaps? What does
> > it
> > look like when you use Control+Shift+8 and use JAWS to look at the
> > character codes for the page breaks?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
> >
> > "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> > the
> > world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Guido Corona"
> >
> > <guidoc@xxxxxxxxx
> > m> To
> > Sent by: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > bksvol-discuss-bo cc
> >
> > unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > g Subject
> > [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books
> >
> > again - how do we submit them?
> >
> > 01/07/2008 11:01
> >
> > AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> > bksvol-discuss@fr
> > eelists.org <http://eelists.org/>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > All, I have just downloaded:
> >
> >
> > 1812: The Rivers of War by Eric Flint,
> >
> >
> > from the Baen Free library site in unzipped RTF format. The book
> > contains
> > a valid copyright notice, an ISBN, specifies that this is a mass market
> > edition--meaning it is the etext of a paperback, and it appears to sport
> > page breaks of some kind. MS Word reports a total of 411 pages,
> > while
> > Kurzweil 1000 reports just under 250 pages. I suspect that the document
> > may not use standard page breaks for pagination. If this were the case,
> > some editors may not detect page breaks at all.
> >
> >
> > Guido
> >
> >
> >
> > Guido Dante Corona
> > IBM Research,
> > Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> > Austin Tx.
> > Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> > Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Web: http://www.ibm.com/able
> >
> > ". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right who
> > were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> > questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> > wise."
> > [David Poyer, The Command]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Dan Beaver"
> >
> > <dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > Sent by: To
> >
> > bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelist <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > s.org <http://s.org/>
> > cc
> >
> >
> > Subject
> >
> > 01/07/2008 07:59 AM [bksvol-discuss] Baen books
> >
> > again - how do we submit them?
> >
> >
> >
> > Please respond to
> >
> > bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about
> > submitting them. The Baen books I have read none of them had page
> > breaks
> > or
> > page numbers and no Copyright info included.
> >
> > Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work on?
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
> > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list
> > of
> > available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
> > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list
> > of
> > available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Clarification on Tables
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 17:25:25 -0500
> >
> > Dear Jake,
> > I just found your message advising us to leave tables in tact. As long
> > as we don't mess with the content, if the tables are easier to read as
> > text, is it too bad a thing to convert them to text? Really, the tables
> > I get while validating often have errors which are a bear to tackle
> > within the table format, and I'd regret having to reconvert back to a
> > table after I corrected it because I think they are a nightmare for
> > visual readers, as in low vision visual readers...
> >
> > I'm asking permission to break the rules, but admit that if I don't get
> > it, I might go underground in good conscience.
> >
> > Always with love,
> >
> > Lissi
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jake Brownell
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 5:06 AM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Clarification on Tables
> >
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Recently there were some questions about tables in Bookshare books.
> > The Bookshare tools do in fact recognize tables, so please leave tables
> > in tact where there should be tables. The VM does mention tables as they
> > relate to scanning (in section 4), but I'll see if there is a better
> > place to mention it, perhaps in the section about cleaning up books,
> > which would apply to both scanners and validators.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Jake
> >
> > Jake Brownell
> > jakeb@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 17:28:00 -0500
> > From: talmage@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit
> >
> > Hi Guido,
> >
> > In the word find field enter a ^b to search for section breaks. If
> > you find them, which I kind of doubt you will since the books are
> > meant to be viewed on a computer screen, you can replace them with ^m
> > for a normal page break. I say a normal page break, as that's what
> > MS in its infinite wisdom decided to use when they pushed rtf. I
> > don't know why they felt the need to move away from the old ASCII
> > standard page break of ^l, but that's MS for you.
> > On another note look at all the folks that missed you when you
> > weren't here! It makes me think of that country western song, "How
> > can I miss you when you won't go away."
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > At 04:09 PM 1/7/2008, you wrote:
> >
> >>That's entirely possible Prat. How do we check for 'section breaks'
> >>in MS Word / JFW? G.
> >>
> >>
> >>Guido Dante Corona
> >>IBM Research,
> >>Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> >>Austin Tx.
> >>Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> >>Email: guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>Web: <http://www.ibm.com/able>http://www.ibm.com/able
> >>
> >>". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right
> >>who were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those
> >>who questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> > wise."
> >>[David Poyer, The Command]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>"Pratik Patel" <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>Sent by: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>01/07/2008 02:54 PM
> >>Please respond to
> >>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>To
> >><bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>cc
> >>Subject
> >>[bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>There appears to be some inconsistency on how books derive their
> >>page numbers. Not all books have correct page breaks. I just
> >>downloaded two books for comparison purposes. One had no hard page
> >>breaks, the other, had some hard page breaks and other soft
> >>breaks. Guido, the version you downloaded, how many sections does
> >>Word report having in that file? I suspect that that particular
> >>book probably has the infamous section breaks that FR is so fond of
> >>inserting instead of hard page breaks. That probably is the reason
> >>why Kurzweil 1000 decided not to like those pages too.
> >>
> >>Prat
> >>
> >>
> >>From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>[<mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>mailto:bksvol-discuss-boun
> > ce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >>On Behalf Of Michael Sestak
> >>Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 3:43 PM
> >>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
> >>
> >>The book I downloaded had hard page breaks for the front pages up to
> >>the first chapter, then soft page breaks for most of the rest (maybe
> >>some hard page breaks between chapters). As I understand it, the
> >>bookshare software does not recognize soft page breaks (actually, I
> >>don't think soft page breaks exist in the file, I think word just
> >>puts them in on the fly).
> >>
> >>Misha
> >>----- Original Message ----
> >>From: "james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>Sent: Monday, January 7, 2008 9:50:35 AM
> >>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books again - how do we submit them?
> >>
> >>Hi Guido,
> >>Are some of the page breaks hard ones and some soft perhaps? What does
> > it
> >>look like when you use Control+Shift+8 and use JAWS to look at the
> >>character codes for the page breaks?
> >>
> >>Jim
> >>
> >>James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> >><mailto:james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
> >>
> >>"Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change
> > the
> >>world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Guido Corona"
> >> <<mailto:guidoc@xxxxxxxxx>guidoc@xxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >> m>
> > To
> >> Sent
> >> by:
> >> <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> bksvol-discuss-bo
> > cc
> >> <mailto:unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx>unce@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >> g
> > Subject
> >> [bksvol-discuss] Re: Baen books
> >> again - how do we submit them?
> >> 01/07/2008 11:01
> >> AM
> >>
> >>
> >> Please respond to
> >> bksvol-discuss@fr
> >> <http://eelists.org/>eelists.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>All, I have just downloaded:
> >>
> >>
> >> 1812: The Rivers of War by Eric Flint,
> >>
> >>
> >>from the Baen Free library site in unzipped RTF format. The book
> > contains
> >>a valid copyright notice, an ISBN, specifies that this is a mass
> > market
> >>edition--meaning it is the etext of a paperback, and it appears to
> > sport
> >>page breaks of some kind. MS Word reports a total of 411 pages,
> > while
> >>Kurzweil 1000 reports just under 250 pages. I suspect that the
> > document
> >>may not use standard page breaks for pagination. If this were the
> > case,
> >> some editors may not detect page breaks at all.
> >>
> >>
> >> Guido
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Guido Dante Corona
> >>IBM Research,
> >>Human Ability & Accessibility Center, (HA&AC)
> >>Austin Tx.
> >>Phone: 512. 838. 9735.
> >>Email: <mailto:guidoc@xxxxxxxxxx>guidoc@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >>Web: <http://www.ibm.com/able>http://www.ibm.com/able
> >>
> >>". . . Maybe it was only those who were most certain they were right
> > who
> >>were guaranteed to be wrong. And that maybe, just maybe, those who
> >>questioned the most were in the end those who came closest to being
> > wise."
> >>[David Poyer, The Command]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>"Dan Beaver"
> >><<mailto:dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx>dbeaver888@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>
> >>Sent by:
> > To
> >>bksvol-discuss-bounce@freelist
> >><<mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >><http://s.org/>s.org
> >>cc
> >>
> >>
> > Subject
> >>01/07/2008 07:59 AM [bksvol-discuss] Baen books
> >> again - how do we submit
> > them?
> >>
> >> Please respond to
> >> <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Ok, with all this talk I am just curious about how we would go about
> >>submitting them. The Baen books I have read none of them had page
> > breaks
> >>or
> >>page numbers and no Copyright info included.
> >>
> >>Is this something that Jim and the Bookshare staff are going to work
> > on?
> >>
> >>To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
> >><mailto:bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>bksvol-discuss-request@fre
> > elists.org
> >>put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a
> > list of
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
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> > elists.org
> >>put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a
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> > subject line.
> >>
> >>No virus found in this incoming message.
> >>Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> >>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date:
> >>1/7/2008 9:14 AM
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Allison Hilliker" <bookshare_girl@xxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: 16 Lighthouse Road
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 15:41:41 -0700
> >
> > Thanks to Ann and her friend for letting us know about the bug.
> >
> > I checked the book and it reads fine in HTML, but not in Daisy. We've
> > removed the book, and Claire is ordering it so it can be scanned
> > in-house.
> >
> > Sorry to anyone who wanted to read the book right now, but we'll work on
> > putting the new copy up soon.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Allison Hilliker:
> > Intern, Benetech (Bookshare.org).
> > E-mail allisonh@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > www.bookshare.org----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 2:53 PM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] 16 Lighthouse Road
> >
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I was reading the Booksfortheblind list and a bookshare member
> > downloaded
> >> the book in the subj line, by Debbie Macomber. She downloaded the
> > DAISY
> >> format. She said that all she got was page numbers. Has anyone read
> >> this book recently or downloaded it at all? If it is indeed corrupt
> > and
> >> not a munged download, it should probably be removed or reencoded.
> > The
> >> BRF file's fine, I downloaded that.
> >>
> >> TIA,
> >> Ann P.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Ann K. Parsons
> >> Portal Tutoring
> >> EMAIL: akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> http://www.portaltutoring.info
> >> "All that is gold does not glitter,
> >> Not all those who wander are lost."
> >>
> >> Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit
> >> www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere.
> >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
> >> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a
> > list
> >> of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject
> > line.
> >>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "groups Warford" <groups_warford@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: tables converting to text Jamie's great
> > tip
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 18:32:20 -0500
> >
> > Hi Lissi,
> > Thanks for pointing this out to all of us and for thinking of me. I
> > will
> > include it in my material. I hadn't seen Jamie's original post, but
> > then I
> > seem to be constantly behind these days.
> >
> > Thanks again, and take care!
> > Cindy W (Cindy 4)
> >
> > Start with the necessary and the possible, and you'll soon find you're
> > doing
> > the impossible.
> > -- St. Francis
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Estelnalissi
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 5:08 PM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] tables converting to text Jamie's great tip
> >
> > Dear Booksharian Friends
> >
> > I'd rather not know how many hours I've struggled to replace tables with
> >
> > text. Often the columns are off and get more unmatched as the table
> > continues. Often JAWS and I have mixed results trying to read the table
> > and
> > editing it is nearly impossible, especially getting mismatched columns
> > to
> > line up properly.
> >
> > Recently Jamie sent the following instructions to the list. Her I did a
> > find
> >
> > to locate her message and it saved me a huge amount of work on a book
> > I'll
> > be able to upload early this evening.
> >
> > Here is her short, very effective tip for converting tables to text in
> > Microsoft word.
> >
> > To convert a table in word you just make sure your cursor is in the
> > table,
> > press Alt-A for the table menu, V for convert and B for table to text.
> >
> > This tip has made editing so fast and easy and the resulting
> > information in
> >
> > text format conveyed the table information exactly. It is very hard for
> > some
> >
> > people to visually skip the wide distance between columns in some tables
> > and
> >
> > remain on the same line. In text, these columns can be separated by
> > commas
> > or dashes or whatever.
> >
> > When you press b, in the last step of Jamie's tip, you get a dialogue
> > box
> > where you can choose how you want to separate columns with tabs, etc.
> > There
> > is even a place to type in how you want to mark the gap between or start
> > of
> > information in the next column.
> >
> > I went to Jakes site to see if Jamie's tip, or one like it was there and
> >
> > didn't find it. I don't know if my link is as up to date as it should
> > be,
> > but her tip really belongs on the list of Jakes tips. Cindy W, you might
> >
> > also want to include this tip in the manual you are developing adding
> > information about the dialogue box which pops up when you press the b.
> >
> > Thank you, Jamie!
> >
> > Always with love,
> >
> > Lissi
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
> > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list
> > of
> > available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:10:57 -0500
> > From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> >
> > I don't know about the 1260. If you're sure it's a 1260, I'd check the
> > Epson web site and forget the disc.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:03 AM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> >
> >
> >> Gary, Nick from the otherlist tried and tried to help me withit, I got
> > so
> >> frustrated I quit. Lok, the installation disk after clicking continue
> > is
> >> inaccessible, all I know is i have an ipson perfection 1260 whether or
> > not
> >> its a phone I don't kno. I've also had it seven years, it was a
> > freebie
> >> from dell years back hen I gt this desktop. Befre that, I had a UMax
> >> scanner that once installed took so long the tech woman said youwon't
> > ned
> >> it, ook it,nd when I had a major reformat later, I ended up with a
> > paper
> >> weight. so that's why I won't go for an eopson again.
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:00 AM
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> >>
> >>
> >>>I hope you're not jumping the gun. Epsons have been highly regarded
> > for a
> >>>long time, at least the Perfection line.
> >>>
> >>> What model Epson?
> >>> Also, have you discussed this with the k1000 tech support people?
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:50 PM
> >>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] scanner buying advice
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi all. I'm ditching my old epson, and would rather not use them
> > again.
> >>> they're ok for printers, but I can't instal the one I had with out
> > help,
> >>> so
> >>> unless epson wised up, I don't want to get another one. I'm not a
> > brand
> >>> hog, I just want a fast scan using k1000 not a huge one so it won't
> > take
> >>> up
> >>> room, pretty quiet, and not that expensive. As for where to buy, I
> > have
> >>> twenty dollars off one hundred if I spend at staples, but that's fine
> > if
> >>> i
> >>> go somewhere else. I'll go anywhere and if it's an online merchant i
> >>> haven't heard of, just let me know it's safe because you've shopped
> > there
> >>> and I'll be happy. I've dealt with credit card fraud to many times
> > to
> >>> count
> >>> last year, I'd rather not do it again. There's no rush so just let
> > me
> >>> know.
> >>> Thanks all.
> >>> Siobhan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> >>> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date:
> >>> 1/6/2008
> >>> 11:57 AM
> >>>
> >>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
> >>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a
> > list
> >>> of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject
> > line.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
> >> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a
> > list
> >> of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject
> > line.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database:
> >> 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM
> >>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 19:27:05 -0500
> > From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> >
> > To be clear, I cannot make sense of what I think I'm hearing. It sounds
> > to
> > me as if it's your computer that's having problems. You have two
> > different
> > scanners each of which has problems with the machine. I have no
> > knowlege
> > about Dells whatsoever. Nevertheless, I have just downloaded the driver
> >
> > files from the Epson site. They are in an executable file which
> > self-extracts to a specific folder. After that, it either runs
> > automatically or you have to go to the folder and run the setup program.
> > If
> > you want the file, I'd be happy to send it to you as an attachment.
> > I'd call Paul just in case he has an idea and he comes on after 2:00
> > P.M.,
> > EST.
> > Sincerest Good Wishes, and let me know if you want the file.
> >
> > Btw, Nick knows much more than I do, but, just in case, did you connect
> > to
> > the front or back of the computer, what operating system do you use?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:03 AM
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> >
> >
> >> Gary, Nick from the otherlist tried and tried to help me withit, I got
> > so
> >> frustrated I quit. Lok, the installation disk after clicking continue
> > is
> >> inaccessible, all I know is i have an ipson perfection 1260 whether or
> > not
> >> its a phone I don't kno. I've also had it seven years, it was a
> > freebie
> >> from dell years back hen I gt this desktop. Befre that, I had a UMax
> >> scanner that once installed took so long the tech woman said youwon't
> > ned
> >> it, ook it,nd when I had a major reformat later, I ended up with a
> > paper
> >> weight. so that's why I won't go for an eopson again.
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:00 AM
> >> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> >>
> >>
> >>>I hope you're not jumping the gun. Epsons have been highly regarded
> > for a
> >>>long time, at least the Perfection line.
> >>>
> >>> What model Epson?
> >>> Also, have you discussed this with the k1000 tech support people?
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Siobhan" <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:50 PM
> >>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] scanner buying advice
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi all. I'm ditching my old epson, and would rather not use them
> > again.
> >>> they're ok for printers, but I can't instal the one I had with out
> > help,
> >>> so
> >>> unless epson wised up, I don't want to get another one. I'm not a
> > brand
> >>> hog, I just want a fast scan using k1000 not a huge one so it won't
> > take
> >>> up
> >>> room, pretty quiet, and not that expensive. As for where to buy, I
> > have
> >>> twenty dollars off one hundred if I spend at staples, but that's fine
> > if
> >>> i
> >>> go somewhere else. I'll go anywhere and if it's an online merchant i
> >>> haven't heard of, just let me know it's safe because you've shopped
> > there
> >>> and I'll be happy. I've dealt with credit card fraud to many times
> > to
> >>> count
> >>> last year, I'd rather not do it again. There's no rush so just let
> > me
> >>> know.
> >>> Thanks all.
> >>> Siobhan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --------
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> >>> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date:
> >>> 1/6/2008
> >>> 11:57 AM
> >>>
> >>> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
> >>> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a
> > list
> >>> of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject
> > line.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to
> >> bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a
> > list
> >> of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject
> > line.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> No virus found in this incoming message.
> >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database:
> >> 269.17.13/1213 - Release Date: 1/7/2008 9:14 AM
> >>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > From: "Maria Kristic" <maria6289@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Wish List and other books I have scanned and
> > am worki
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 19:57:25 -0500
> >
> > Hi all,
> > Below are five books which I have scanned, but I have yet to clean them
> > up
> > as much as I'd like to (including removing headers), so I won't put them
> > up
> > until I have. I go back to college next week, so I'm not sure exactly
> > when
> > I'll get them done, but I will, and I'm posting here because I don't
> > want
> > anyone to end up having duplicated scanning that's already been done.
> > Four
> > of them are off of the Wish List, and one is not. The one which isn't
> > is:
> >
> > Songs of the Humpback Whale, by Jodi Picoult
> >
> > The four from the Wish List are:
> >
> > Unspoken, by Lisa Jackson
> >
> > A Twist of Fate, by Lisa Jackson
> >
> > Speak, by Laurie Halse Anderson
> >
> > Good Intentions, by Joy Fielding
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Maria
> > ________________________________________
> > Maria Kristic
> > Skype: MariaKristic
> > AIM: MCKristic
> > E-Mail and MSN: <blocked::mailto:maria6289@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > maria6289@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Google Talk: <blocked::mailto:Maria.Kristic@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Maria.Kristic@xxxxxxxxx
> > Yahoo Messenger: <blocked::mailto:mariakristic@xxxxxxxxx>
> > mariakristic@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 20:39:16 -0500
> > From: talmage@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> >
> > I think I know what she is referring to in respect to the 1260. I
> > have one but don't currently use it because it is so frigging slow,
> > but the autorun file that kicks in when you load the CD puts the user
> > in a screen that allows you to install drivers, software,
> > etc. Unfortunately, the screen is graphics based and doesn't talk or
> > provide any usable output. The way around this is to use either the
> > file from Epson's web site, which is actually a better choice as
> > they're newer drivers anyway, or to load the CD, exit the setup
> > screen, browse to the CD in Explorer, switch to the drivers folder,
> > and run the executable found there. The setup programs in the sub
> > folders talk fine, it's just the one that autoruns that stinks.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > At 07:27 PM 1/7/2008, you wrote:
> >>To be clear, I cannot make sense of what I think I'm hearing. It
> >>sounds to me as if it's your computer that's having problems. You
> >>have two different scanners each of which has problems with the
> >>machine. I have no knowlege about Dells whatsoever. Nevertheless,
> >>I have just downloaded the driver files from the Epson site. They
> >>are in an executable file which self-extracts to a specific
> >>folder. After that, it either runs automatically or you have to go
> >>to the folder and run the setup program. If you want the file, I'd
> >>be happy to send it to you as an attachment.
> >>I'd call Paul just in case he has an idea and he comes on after 2:00
> >>P.M., EST.
> >>Sincerest Good Wishes, and let me know if you want the file.
> >>
> >>Btw, Nick knows much more than I do, but, just in case, did you
> >>connect to the front or back of the computer, what operating system do
> > you use?
> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Siobhan"
> > <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:03 AM
> >>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> >>
> >>
> >>>Gary, Nick from the otherlist tried and tried to help me withit, I
> >>>got so frustrated I quit. Lok, the installation disk after
> >>>clicking continue is inaccessible, all I know is i have an ipson
> >>>perfection 1260 whether or not its a phone I don't kno. I've also
> >>>had it seven years, it was a freebie from dell years back hen I gt
> >>>this desktop. Befre that, I had a UMax scanner that once installed
> >>>took so long the tech woman said youwon't ned it, ook it,nd when I
> >>>had a major reformat later, I ended up with a paper weight. so
> >>>that's why I won't go for an eopson again.
> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Petraccaro"
> > <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:00 AM
> >>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: scanner buying advice
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I hope you're not jumping the gun. Epsons have been highly
> >>>>regarded for a long time, at least the Perfection line.
> >>>>
> >>>>What model Epson?
> >>>>Also, have you discussed this with the k1000 tech support people?
> >>>>
> >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Siobhan"
> > <littlesailorgirl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 8:50 PM
> >>>>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] scanner buying advice
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Hi all. I'm ditching my old epson, and would rather not use them
> > again.
> >>>>they're ok for printers, but I can't instal the one I had with out
> > help, so
> >>>>unless epson wised up, I don't want to get another one. I'm not a
> > brand
> >>>>hog, I just want a fast scan using k1000 not a huge one so it won't
> > take up
> >>>>room, pretty quiet, and not that expensive. As for where to buy, I
> > have
> >>>>twenty dollars off one hundred if I spend at staples, but that's fine
> > if i
> >>>>go somewhere else. I'll go anywhere and if it's an online merchant i
> >>>>haven't heard of, just let me know it's safe because you've shopped
> > there
> >>>>and I'll be happy. I've dealt with credit card fraud to many times
> > to count
> >>>>last year, I'd rather not do it again. There's no rush so just let
> > me know.
> >>>>Thanks all.
> >>>>Siobhan
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > -----------
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>No virus found in this incoming message.
> >>>>Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> >>>>Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1211 - Release Date:
> > 1/6/2008
> >>>>11:57 AM
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> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 19:07:45 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Anastasia Saridakis <anamatia81@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Wishlist Request
> >
> > Kelby
> > I am scanning your book and it is very difficult. I am trying to scan it
> > one page at a time b/c 2 at once wasn't working. It is taking a long
> > time and I have to delete a column on each page. I can't open the book
> > wide enough to do 2 pages at a time. DO you need this book or can
> > someone else scan this for you? I've done 150 pages and it doesn't even
> > look like I have put a dent in it as they say. what would you like me to
> > do? Would someone else like this book? It is not my nature to quit on a
> > book but this one is a pain. Do you really need this book and if so can
> > someone else please try to take it? Thank you
> > ANastasia
> > kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Dear Booksharians,
> >
> > I am going to be doing a report/speech on fanaticism, extremism,
> > and terrorism in the U.S. I need to do some research for this
> > report, and was wondering if any of the following could be
> > scanned:
> >
> > Nazis, Communists, Klansmen, and Others on the Fringe:
> > Political Extremism in America by John George, and Laird Wilcox.
> >
> > The Farrakhan Phenomenon: Race, Reaction, and the Paranoid Style
> > in American Politics by Robert Singh. Harvest of Rage: Why
> > Oklahoma City Is Only the Beginning by Joel Dyer
> >
> > The Politics of Unreason: Right Wing Extremism in America,
> > 1790-1970 by Seymour Martin Lipset, Earl Raab.
> >
> > Kelby
> >
> > Doomed Dragon
> >
> > Q: What is the sound of one hand clapping?
> >
> > A: It is the universe exploding.
> >
> > "It is not what we see that determines who we are. It is how we
> > choose to see it."
> >
> > "Let them praise the name of the LORD, for his name alone is
> > exalted; his splendor is above the earth and the heavens."
> >
> > Psalm 148:13
> >
> > "Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your
> > presence? If I go up to the heavens, you are there; if I make my
> > bed in the depths, you are there. If I rise on the wings of the
> > dawn, if I settle on the far side of the sea, even there your
> > hand will guide me, your right hand will hold me fast."
> >
> > Psalm 139:7-10
> >
> >
> >
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 21:52:05 -0600
> > From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Trouble on the Site
> >
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I am trying to upload a book to the admin queue. When I press browse
> > and
> > get the path, I get the error message: "The page you are looking for is
> >
> > unavailable. etc. Is anyone else having problems?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Sue S.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 19:57:00 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Anastasia Saridakis <anamatia81@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Is it to soon to start scanning?
> >
> > Thank you Liz and Shelly for your encouragement.
> > I am hoping they will be uplifting books. Thanks for the support.
> > Anastasia
> > liz halperin <lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Please scan it!
> > Liz in PDX
> >
> > Liz Halperin
> > Portland, OR
> > lizzersagain@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Anastasia
> > Saridakis
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 6:46 AM
> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Is it to soon to start scanning?
> >
> > I did some research and I found 2 different books on the VA Tech
> > tragedy. I
> > am from MD and my brother graduated from Tech in 2005. One of the
> > students
> > who was killed had a father who taught at the school. My brother took
> > his
> > class. This subject is very close to my heart. My question is: is it too
> > soon to put such a book on the site? Anyone on the list from the area
> > too?
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Anastasia
> >
> >
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> >
> > From: Ann Parsons <akp@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: 16 Lighthouse Road
> > Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 22:58:35 -0500
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Alison, you going to write to booksfortheblind, or shall I? No sense
> > in writing twice. Please advise.
> >
> > Ann P.
> >
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> > Not all those who wander are lost."
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> > From: "maithe007" <maithe007@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Thank You
> > Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 23:12:50 -0500
> >
> > Hi guys,
> > I just wanted to say thank you for all of the support you have sent my
> > way. It does help...a lot. I am still raw, but I know that with time I
> > will get better. I miss my mom horribly and I keep picking-up the phone
> > to speak to her. It kills me, but I will learn. She is being cremated
> > tomorrow, we are having a wake for all of her neighborhood friends on
> > Wednesday and a mass on Saturday. We will release her ashes by the
> > ocean afterwards. I hope my mom is happy where she is now. I hope she
> > knows that we all miss her and love her.
> >
> > Thank you all for being my friends. I will be off the loops for a bit
> > until I get myself together. I am sorry if I have not answered your
> > personal letters, but I just can't right now. I have received them and
> > have kept them all to remind me of all the support I have had from my
> > friends.
> >
> > Hugs,
> >
> > Maithe
> >
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