[bksvol-discuss] Re: Auditory Processing Disorder and Reading Accessibility

  • From: Valerie Maples <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 13:42:33 -0600

It certainly might be indicative of a Central Auditory Processing disorder,  
only testing can tell for sure.

Valerie


On Dec 15, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Roger Loran Bailey wrote:

> For those of you who know something about audio processing disorders I wonder 
> if you can make a guess as to whether I have one. I do not have a problem 
> understanding synthetic voices or any of the talking book narrators, but I 
> seem to have a problem understanding a person talking when there is back 
> ground noise. I do not necessarily mean loudness, but that is a definite 
> problem. I mean even soft sounds like elevator music in the background. I 
> have a very difficult time having a conversation with someone on a city 
> sidewalk. I have to keep asking for the speaker to repeat her or himself and 
> I have noticed that some people become annoyed with me. This is a problem I 
> have always had and for the most part I have not thought about it being 
> abnormal, but when no one else seems to have a problem understanding someone 
> in the exact same environment I have sometimes wondered. The best way I can 
> describe it is to say that it seems to me that the background noise is as 
> important as what I am trying to listen to and it is a conscious effort on my 
> part to ignore it.
> "I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I 
> notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B. Anthony
> 
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie Maples" <vlmaples@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 1:44 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Auditory Processing Disorder and Reading 
> Accessibility
> 
> 
> Dear Monica;
> 
> Just like so many areas in health care, there are a wide range of variance in 
> people who have auditory processing disorders. I certainly don't know what is 
> considered typical, I just know about the spectrum they can cover. The new 
> Acapello voices are far superior for most people. I think you will be pleased 
> with the investment.
> 
> Unfortunately I am in no position to site I have read things as my computers 
> are in total upheaval. I can only speak to my 2 children who were identified 
> as having auditory processing disorders and the fact that they could not 
> follow commands by earlier speech devices using DECtalk and I was told that 
> that was common. I know that many individuals with auditory processing 
> disorders could not retain information presented in SAPI 4 voices and then he 
> still can only use some of the SAPI 5 voices. Sorry I cannot be of more help. 
>  I know more about solutions then the research behind them. Smiles.
> 
> Valerie
> 
> 
> On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:34 PM, Monica Willyard wrote:
> 
>> Hi Valerie. I'm probably an odd exception to the auditory processing
>> disorder group. I don't know what is typical, and I'm learning more about it
>> as I go. I was only correctly diagnosed this year, as an adult. Like Nicole,
>> I like the new Acapella voice Bookshare gives us and would love to have all
>> of my devices and programs use that voice, especially JAWS. I'm going to buy
>> it for my computer as soon as I can afford it.
>> 
>> You mentioned that people with auditory processing disorder don't recognize
>> TTS speech as sound. That confuses me a little. Do you have any books or web
>> sites you could recommend about this? If there is no information on
>> Bookshare, I will look for a couple of books to scan about it. I seem to be
>> backward if this is normal. Then again, I'm blind too, so maybe normal isn't
>> really applicable.
>> 
>> I do well using specific types of speech, and there are some human readers I
>> can barely comprehend. My inability to understand certain readers makes
>> those books inaccessible for me unless I scan them for myself. That's
>> something champions of audiobooks probably don't really understand. I look
>> at the name of the narrator of a book or listen to a sample of the speech
>> before even considering buying it from Audible.
>> 
>> I like books that are in a text format so I can use a voice that I
>> understand clearly. I prefer Braille if I can get it. If not, I need a
>> fairly constant, very clear, and unaccented voice to cope with reading. When
>> I have to use a device with a confusing voice, I use my computer to record
>> books into mp3 files using a voice that I do understand well. Then I put my
>> good files on the bad device and can function well.
>> 
>> Knowing what I'm dealing with, and that it will benefit our deaf/blind
>> members as well, I usually end up scanning books I want to read from NLS
>> unless they have the book in WebBraille. I often end up scanning my Audible
>> books too, especially ones that I want to learn from or read in depth.
>> 
>> Monica Willyard
>> "The best way to predict the future is to create it." -- Peter Drucker
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Valerie Maples
>> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 8:18 PM
>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Publishers and Bookshare As a Library
>> 
>> I have to agree with Judy. As a matter of fact, Nichole would never listen
>> to a synthetic voice until the acapella voices that are now available on her
>> device. I don't know anyone who prefers TTS over audio books and most are
>> more than willing to pay for the alternative. The only people who learn to
>> accept TTS are those who need a wider range of books or budget constraints
>> make the other alternative unaffordable. Then there are people with auditory
>> processing disorders who do not even acknowledge TTS as speech as it is
>> processed slightly differently in the brain.
>> 
>> In my opinion we need to constantly be exploring and expanding all mediums
>> all of text accessibility and in a cooperative effort like Bookshare, I
>> think that everyone comes out winners. I know that even though I have a
>> membership now I will probably almost exclusively be a volunteer due to time
>> constraints, but being a member will allow me to check how certain things
>> are handled in the final process or view how proofreaders have handled my
>> scans.
>> 
>> Interesting dialogue everyone...
>> Valerie
>> 
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf Of Judy s.
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 2:39 PM
>>> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Publishers and Bookshare As a Library
>>> 
>>> I view the disabling of TTS as about as silly as the digital
>>> rights management.
>>> 
>> <snip>
>>> I don't know a single sighted person, other than myself, who will
>>> willingly listen to listen to a book that they can read by
>>> listening to it in a synthetic voice.  Me?  I can't afford
>>> expensive audible downloads, and the NLS's offerings are very
>>> limited in my tastes, so listening to books via bookshare
>>> downloads using either DAISY or Text Aloud has become an acquired
>>> taste, one I've become used to and actually very much enjoy.
>>> 
>>> If sighted readers were the least bit interested in hearing books
>>> read with a synthetic voice, I suspect the market would be
>>> flooded with that sort of book.  Why?  It is much cheaper for a
>>> book publisher to produce that en masse than it is to hire a
>>> professional reader and studio to produce the master for each and
>>> every book that becomes an audible book.
>>> 
>>> I really doubt that sales of human-read audible books would waver
>>> one whit if ebooks had TTS enabled. It would expand the market of
>>> ebooks available to the sighted/disabled reader, but that's about it.
>>> 
>>> Just my opinion.  Grin.
>>> 
>>> Judy s.
>> 
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