Hi, Chela, if there was supposed to be an attachment in your message so the
voices you mentioned could be heard, I didn't get it so can't render an
opinion. Regards, Kim.
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chela Robles
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 12:26 PM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Auditory Processing Disorder and Reading
Accessibility
Hello everyone, here is a demo page of Lequendo voices they sound quite
natural don't you think?
Enjoy and let me know what you all think,
http://www.loquendo.com/en/demos/demo_tts.htm
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"If you go without playing the trumpet for one day, no one knows, two days,
only you know, and more than three days without practicing, girl you better
look out, because everyone will know!"
Today, I find myself constantly saying those words, just to get myself
going, to not give up, and it works. Since I learned to play the trumpet at
the tender age of 10, I have spent so much passion and much diligence with
that instrument that I will not give up on it. Sometimes my instrument puts
me into awkward situations where I feel like they won't ever end, but the
trumpet gives me a lot of hope with the majestic, crystal-clear sound it
brings to my ears.
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Chela Robles
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Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 11:42 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Auditory Processing Disorder and Reading
Accessibility
It certainly might be indicative of a Central Auditory Processing
disorder, only testing can tell for sure.
Valerie
On Dec 15, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Roger Loran Bailey wrote:
For those of you who know something about audio processing disorders
I wonder if you can make a guess as to whether I have one. I do not
have a problem understanding synthetic voices or any of the talking
book narrators, but I seem to have a problem understanding a person
talking when there is back ground noise. I do not necessarily mean
loudness, but that is a definite problem. I mean even soft sounds
like elevator music in the background. I have a very difficult time
having a conversation with someone on a city sidewalk. I have to keep
asking for the speaker to repeat her or himself and I have noticed
that some people become annoyed with me. This is a problem I have
always had and for the most part I have not thought about it being
abnormal, but when no one else seems to have a problem understanding
someone in the exact same environment I have sometimes wondered. The
best way I can describe it is to say that it seems to me that the
background noise is as important as what
I am trying to listen to and it is a conscious effort on my part to
ignore it.
"I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do
because I notice it always coincides with their own desires." - Susan B.
Anthony
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Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 1:44 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Auditory Processing Disorder and
Reading Accessibility
Dear Monica;
Just like so many areas in health care, there are a wide range of
variance in people who have auditory processing disorders. I
certainly don't know what is considered typical, I just know about
the spectrum they can cover. The new Acapello voices are far superior for
most people.
I think you will be pleased with the investment.
Unfortunately I am in no position to site I have read things as my
computers are in total upheaval. I can only speak to my 2 children
who were identified as having auditory processing disorders and the
fact that they could not follow commands by earlier speech devices
using DECtalk and I was told that that was common. I know that many
individuals with auditory processing disorders could not retain
information presented in SAPI 4 voices and then he still can only use
some of the SAPI 5 voices.
Sorry I cannot be of more help. I know more about solutions then the
research behind them. Smiles.
Valerie
On Dec 14, 2009, at 3:34 PM, Monica Willyard wrote:
Hi Valerie. I'm probably an odd exception to the auditory processing
disorder group. I don't know what is typical, and I'm learning more
about it as I go. I was only correctly diagnosed this year, as an
adult. Like Nicole, I like the new Acapella voice Bookshare gives us
and would love to have all of my devices and programs use that
voice, especially JAWS. I'm going to buy it for my computer as soon
as I can afford it.
You mentioned that people with auditory processing disorder don't
recognize TTS speech as sound. That confuses me a little. Do you
have any books or web sites you could recommend about this? If there
is no information on Bookshare, I will look for a couple of books to
scan about it. I seem to be backward if this is normal. Then again,
I'm blind too, so maybe normal isn't really applicable.
I do well using specific types of speech, and there are some human
readers I can barely comprehend. My inability to understand certain
readers makes those books inaccessible for me unless I scan them for
myself. That's something champions of audiobooks probably don't
really understand. I look at the name of the narrator of a book or
listen to a sample of the speech before even considering buying it
from Audible.
I like books that are in a text format so I can use a voice that I
understand clearly. I prefer Braille if I can get it. If not, I need
a fairly constant, very clear, and unaccented voice to cope with
reading.
When
I have to use a device with a confusing voice, I use my computer to
record books into mp3 files using a voice that I do understand well.
Then I put my good files on the bad device and can function well.
Knowing what I'm dealing with, and that it will benefit our
deaf/blind members as well, I usually end up scanning books I want
to read from NLS unless they have the book in WebBraille. I often
end up scanning my Audible books too, especially ones that I want to
learn from or read in depth.
Monica Willyard
"The best way to predict the future is to create it." -- Peter
Drucker
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Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 8:18 PM
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I have to agree with Judy. As a matter of fact, Nichole would never
listen to a synthetic voice until the acapella voices that are now
available on her device. I don't know anyone who prefers TTS over
audio books and most are more than willing to pay for the
alternative. The only people who learn to accept TTS are those who
need a wider range of books or budget constraints make the other
alternative unaffordable. Then there are people with auditory
processing disorders who do not even acknowledge TTS as speech as it
is processed slightly differently in the brain.
In my opinion we need to constantly be exploring and expanding all
mediums all of text accessibility and in a cooperative effort like
Bookshare, I think that everyone comes out winners. I know that even
though I have a membership now I will probably almost exclusively be
a volunteer due to time constraints, but being a member will allow
me to check how certain things are handled in the final process or
view how proofreaders have handled my scans.
Interesting dialogue everyone...
Valerie
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
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Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 2:39 PM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Publishers and Bookshare As a Library
I view the disabling of TTS as about as silly as the digital rights
management.
<snip>
I don't know a single sighted person, other than myself, who will
willingly listen to listen to a book that they can read by
listening to it in a synthetic voice. Me? I can't afford
expensive audible downloads, and the NLS's offerings are very
limited in my tastes, so listening to books via bookshare downloads
using either DAISY or Text Aloud has become an acquired taste, one
I've become used to and actually very much enjoy.
If sighted readers were the least bit interested in hearing books
read with a synthetic voice, I suspect the market would be flooded
with that sort of book. Why? It is much cheaper for a book
publisher to produce that en masse than it is to hire a
professional reader and studio to produce the master for each and
every book that becomes an audible book.
I really doubt that sales of human-read audible books would waver
one whit if ebooks had TTS enabled. It would expand the market of
ebooks available to the sighted/disabled reader, but that's about it.
Just my opinion. Grin.
Judy s.
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