[bksvol-discuss] Re: An alternative to validating fair quality submissions

  • From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:57:21 -0500

Or the Old Time Radio a Complete Encyclopedia, over 800 pages.


Shelley L. Rhodes M.A., VRT, CTVI
and Guinevere, Golden lady Guide
juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
Graduate Alumni Association Board
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More than Any other time, When i hold a beloved book in my hand, my 
limitations fall from me, my spirit is free.
- Helen Keller

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Petraccaro" <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 9:26 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: An alternative to validating fair quality 
submissions


There's got to be some version of the super heavyweight class.  For
instance, what would you give whoever did Rise and Fall of the 3rd Reich?
<grin>
----- Original Message ----- 
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To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 11:22 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: An alternative to validating fair quality
submissions


> I'm a bit torn here regarding this topic.  Remembering the days when I
> relied on RFB, The Library Of Congress, and my KRM model 400, I either had
> to deal with a lengthy wait for the book to possibly become available, or
> scan it with results that now wouldn't even be considered fair.  Back then
> if I wanted to read the book desperately enough, I would put up with the
> rotten scan.  At the time it was my opinion that a poor scan was better in
> most cases than no scan.  My concern with axing fair scans across the
> board is that we may miss the opportunity to come across an author,
> subject, or unique book we may not have the chance to ever have elsewhere.
> I think Bookshare has moved in the right direction by hiding the poorer
> quality scans from users by default, but still allowing those willing to
> take a chance on being disappointed to find the less than stellar scans.
> I hate to admit it, but I do usually avoid now-a-days, validating scans
> that have been rated fair.  If I do validate one, I will almost always
> reject it if there are any missing pages.  The other thing I won't do with
> a fair book is put too much time into cleaning it up, and I'll make sure
> it is still rated fair when I resubmit it, in the hope that when we go
> back over the fair books in the collection, it will be replaced with a
> better quality scan.
> Regarding this topic however, I have a couple of suggestions that for the
> most part wouldn't be too hard to implement.
> As many others have suggested, I would have the books scanned for quality
> on their submission, rather than relying on the opinion of the individual
> scanners to choose a quality rating.
> I would develop a multi tiered credit rating for submissions, as opposed
> to a straight $2.50 across the board, and on a separate note, I'd also
> base the amount of credit on the number of pages in the book.  I don't
> think someone who submits a 25 page book should get the same credit as
> someone that does a 750 page book.
> I also think that Bookshare should track some statistics on user
> submissions, and after a user has reached a certain percentage of their
> books being rated as fair, the system should refuse to accept any further
> fair scans from them.  So in other words, if 75% of a user's scans are
> rated fair, the system wouldn't allow any further fair submissions from
> the user.  This would of course rely on the earlier point of scanning for
> quality at the time of submission, and it would require that a minimum
> number be submitted before it kicked in.
> I think Bookshare should also track the number of times each book has been
> downloaded, and for popular books that are less than excellent, they
> should be pushed onto the wish list for a BSO scan request.
> Before anyone beats up on me with the staff time concern, the only time
> involved would be in developing the plan, and than a short amount for the
> software engineers to do some coding to automate the whole process
> involved.  While the multi tiered credit could be confusing, I'm not
> talking anything too involved.  Maybe something like a base of $2.50 for
> an excellent scan, $2.00 for a good scan, and $1.00 for a fair scan.  You
> could than multiply the rate by a percentage for volume, something like
> 1.0 for over 250 pages, .80 for 151 to 250, .70 for 101 to 150 etc.  So in
> the cases above with a fair book, (yes I chose the easiest one to figure)
> the submitter would get $1.00, $.80, and $.70, respectively.  Please keep
> in mind the above are just examples to show what I mean, and the staff
> hopefully with some volunteer input would have to set a scale.  As for
> being confusing, the volunteer can still go to their profile page at any
> time to find out what the actual credit they've accumulated is.
>
> Dave
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