[bksvol-discuss] Re: An alternative to validating fair quality submissions

  • From: Grandma Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:53:11 -0800 (PST)

I'm not sure to what part of Ann's message you're
referring. If you're referring to whatever condition
the book was in rather than to the  money credit, I'd
validate it rather than reject it for fear that it
would never get rescanned. In fact, I was rather
hoping to validate it, but someone got to it first. I
have another tome downloaded to validate which I think
might have some problems but from the couple of pages
I provided to the submitter it seems to be written in
an interesting manner and I'm looking forward to
validating it. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised and
there won't be anything to fix and I'll just read. I
did the same for Broken Trust. I think the submitter
warned that there might be problems and I took the
book because I thought it would be a valuable addition
to the collection--It was interesting and informative,
though not exactly "fun" reading--but I learned that
the U.S. cheated Hawaii out of its kingdom, so to
speak, and was shocked at the corruption in its courts
and government.

G.Cindy

--- Gary Petraccaro <garyp130@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> There's got to be some version of the super
> heavyweight class.  For 
> instance, what would you give whoever did Rise and
> Fall of the 3rd Reich? 
> <grin>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: An alternative to
> validating fair quality 
> submissions
> 
> 
> > I'm a bit torn here regarding this topic. 
> Remembering the days when I 
> > relied on RFB, The Library Of Congress, and my KRM
> model 400, I either had 
> > to deal with a lengthy wait for the book to
> possibly become available, or 
> > scan it with results that now wouldn't even be
> considered fair.  Back then 
> > if I wanted to read the book desperately enough, I
> would put up with the 
> > rotten scan.  At the time it was my opinion that a
> poor scan was better in 
> > most cases than no scan.  My concern with axing
> fair scans across the 
> > board is that we may miss the opportunity to come
> across an author, 
> > subject, or unique book we may not have the chance
> to ever have elsewhere. 
> > I think Bookshare has moved in the right direction
> by hiding the poorer 
> > quality scans from users by default, but still
> allowing those willing to 
> > take a chance on being disappointed to find the
> less than stellar scans.
> > I hate to admit it, but I do usually avoid
> now-a-days, validating scans 
> > that have been rated fair.  If I do validate one,
> I will almost always 
> > reject it if there are any missing pages.  The
> other thing I won't do with 
> > a fair book is put too much time into cleaning it
> up, and I'll make sure 
> > it is still rated fair when I resubmit it, in the
> hope that when we go 
> > back over the fair books in the collection, it
> will be replaced with a 
> > better quality scan.
> > Regarding this topic however, I have a couple of
> suggestions that for the 
> > most part wouldn't be too hard to implement.
> > As many others have suggested, I would have the
> books scanned for quality 
> > on their submission, rather than relying on the
> opinion of the individual 
> > scanners to choose a quality rating.
> > I would develop a multi tiered credit rating for
> submissions, as opposed 
> > to a straight $2.50 across the board, and on a
> separate note, I'd also 
> > base the amount of credit on the number of pages
> in the book.  I don't 
> > think someone who submits a 25 page book should
> get the same credit as 
> > someone that does a 750 page book.
> > I also think that Bookshare should track some
> statistics on user 
> > submissions, and after a user has reached a
> certain percentage of their 
> > books being rated as fair, the system should
> refuse to accept any further 
> > fair scans from them.  So in other words, if 75%
> of a user's scans are 
> > rated fair, the system wouldn't allow any further
> fair submissions from 
> > the user.  This would of course rely on the
> earlier point of scanning for 
> > quality at the time of submission, and it would
> require that a minimum 
> > number be submitted before it kicked in.
> > I think Bookshare should also track the number of
> times each book has been 
> > downloaded, and for popular books that are less
> than excellent, they 
> > should be pushed onto the wish list for a BSO scan
> request.
> > Before anyone beats up on me with the staff time
> concern, the only time 
> > involved would be in developing the plan, and than
> a short amount for the 
> > software engineers to do some coding to automate
> the whole process 
> > involved.  While the multi tiered credit could be
> confusing, I'm not 
> > talking anything too involved.  Maybe something
> like a base of $2.50 for 
> > an excellent scan, $2.00 for a good scan, and
> $1.00 for a fair scan.  You 
> > could than multiply the rate by a percentage for
> volume, something like 
> > 1.0 for over 250 pages, .80 for 151 to 250, .70
> for 101 to 150 etc.  So in 
> > the cases above with a fair book, (yes I chose the
> easiest one to figure) 
> > the submitter would get $1.00, $.80, and $.70,
> respectively.  Please keep 
> > in mind the above are just examples to show what I
> mean, and the staff 
> > hopefully with some volunteer input would have to
> set a scale.  As for 
> > being confusing, the volunteer can still go to
> their profile page at any 
> > time to find out what the actual credit they've
> accumulated is.
> >
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