[bksvol-discuss] Re: All quote closed quotes

  • From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 04:05:05 -0600

Yes, thanks, Chris, that does help.  Since I am a braille only user I did
not realize thhese conflicts.

Sue S.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Fleming" <wellbeing@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 10:00 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: All quote closed quotes


Hi Sue,

In addition to the normal apostrophe and double quotes that you mentioned,
there also are open and close apostrophes and quotation marks.  If you have
Microsoft Word you will find in the insert menu under symbols the special
characters tab a list of these symbols, you can insert them from this
dialogue box or you can get the keyboard combinations for them and do it
yourself.

I really do not know if they are used that often.

What is frustrating about this is, JAWS says quote for all of the different
quotation marks and JAWS says apostrophe for the different apostrophes.

Instead of using the normal double quote, Openbook uses the close quote.  I
didn't realize this because Openbook speech says double quote and when you
read the document in word or any other word processor, JAWS just says quote.

Hope that helps.


Chris

         At 02:32 PM 3/6/2005, you wrote:

>HHHHmm.  In typing I have always used the "same" marks, and for quotes
>within quotes I use the 'apostrophe'.  So you people have lost me.  I kknow
>they are different in Braille but I guess I thought they were like I just
>indicated in print.
>
>Sue S.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 12:53 PM
>Subject: [bksvol-discuss] All quote closed quotes
>
>
>Interesting, Kellie. I've been working on a book that
>also has all quotes closed quotes. The book is rtf; I
>don't know what it was scanned in, but I'm checking it
>in rtf. I found that I can do a global replace: Even
>though I can't see the difference between them when I
>put the quotation marks in the Replace and Replace
>with, if I put Replace quotation marks before a
>capital letter and Replace  With quotations marks
>before a capital letter, it changes all of them to the
>kind of quotation marks that are supposed to be at the
>beginning of a quote. I'm using Word 98 and a Mac, so
>I don't know if this would work for everyone.  The
>volume I'm working with has several different books,
>which I'm getting one at a time, so now before I start
>reading the book I go through the alphabet replacing
>the closed quotes.
>
>Cindy
>
>Cindy
>
>--- Kellie Hartmann <hart0421@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Hi Chris,
> > Whenever I work on a file scanned with Openbook, all
> > the normal quotation
> > marks are replaced with "close quotes." This is true
> > of opening and closing
> > quotation marks. Also, all the apostrophes are
> > replaced with something odd,
> > but I can't remember what. I do my editing in
> > Kurzweil, so I'm not sure if
> > the problem is caused by Openbook or if it has
> > something to do with how
> > Kurzweil treats rtf files made with Openbook. I've
> > been planning to look at
> > one of these in Word to see if the punctuation is
> > interpreted as normal
> > there or if it's strange. If you happen to have
> > Word, maybe you could scan a
> > couple pages with quotes and then save the file as
> > rtf and open it in Word,
> > and check out the quotes to see what they are up to.
> > Whenever I work on an
> > arc file I just replace all those closing quotes
> > with normal quotes, and all
> > the whatevers with apostrophes. I have seen books in
> > the collection like you
> > describe with total weirdness where there should be
> > quotation marks.
> > Kellie
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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