Nimit, you have already solved your own problem. When you start reading a book that is distasteful to you you stop reading it and delete it. That is your choice and you have made that choice. When you ask other people to censor books before you can find out that you have a distaste for them, though, you are asking people to make your choices for you and to take your choice away from you. There are some words that I have a distaste for myself. Those words are usually racist or sexist terms or are other words that display bigotry. Sometimes I actually cringe when I come across such words. However, if someone tried to prevent me from encountering them I would be extremely resentful. If someone else decided for me what words I should be allowed to be exposed to without my having an input I would be more offended than I would be if I encountered the words themselves. As long as books that are marked as containing adult content are prohibited from being accessed by anyone I even oppose the adult designation at all and I would remove any adult designation on a book that I was proofreading. If the designation was there for informational purposes only, though, then that would be a different matter because you could see the designation and simply decide for yourself whether to download it or not. I am not sure that such a designation is necessary though. Notwithstanding miscategorization, if a book is listed in the children's category and not in other categories then it should be safe to assume that the book is not written for adults and if a book is not in the childrens category then it should be assumed that it is written with adults in mind. In any case, there is never a guarantee that you will like any book before you start reading it and you should not expect that other people should take responsibility for deciding that you are going to like a book or not. You can read reviews. You can listen to literary discussions. You can look to see what category a book is listed in. There are a number of ways to get a pretty good idea of whether you will like a book before you start reading it, but you will never know for sure until you actually start reading it. Once you do start reading and if you decide that it is not for you then you can just stop reading and you have already said that is what you do. Similarly, if I run into one of those words that make me cringe I can stop reading myself and I have run into them on many occasions. Guess what? It has never harmed me. Sometimes I might become a bit angry or disgusted or feel some other unpleasant emotion, but I have never been harmed. If you have come across words that you find distasteful I expect that you might feel some kind of unpleasant emotion too, but I doubt very much that you have suffered any lasting harm. You just stop reading. That should be enough. Furthermore, even if you are personally "protected" from certain words by other people who are depriving you of your right to make your own decisions about what to read it so happens that other people your age or younger are deprived at the same time. So even if you maintain the right to relinquish your own power of personal decision making then do you really have the right to ask that it be taken away from others of your age. I would say that your best move is to just continue to make your own decisions about what to read and don't ask that your choices nor anyone else's choices be
censored. On 4/3/2013 4:43 PM, Nimit Kaur wrote: block quote OK. Sorry then. I mean, then think about the words that you hear a beap in the movies or shows when it is being said. I hope I am not forced to write some here. I won't and I hope I am not forced. I mean, I really don't want to and I know not to. So, yeah, think about the words that won't be writen in the kids' books or like the words or actions, sometimes that are not in the movies rated excluding minors such as PG or R or I can't think of more yet. Sorry if I was wrong. Thank you............ On 4/3/13, Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote: block quote # I cannot think of a single word I have ever read or heard in my whole life that I would not want a minor to hear or read. On 4/3/2013 4:24 PM, Nimit Kaur wrote: block quote Dear all Bookshare volunteers, I am emailing to sincerely request all scanners to label the book adult content checkbox if it is, please? Remember, the books you are going to add to the collection will also pop up even if the minors search in the collection when you don't label it if it is adult content. i have seen many books either in the collection and in my account preferences, the books that contain adult content has been blocked or whatever that setting does, but because many people are not labeling it, I have mistakenly downloaded and deleted the book because I can't read them yet. I sincerely ask all scanners on behalf of all the minors to please please please please please please please to check the box that says "adult content" if it is when you submit the book, please? I mean, I have downloaded many books mistakenly that are not properly stated adult content either for proofing or reading for bookshare. Please understand my situation. I am sorry if I was too much, but I am just trying to ask everyone scanners as sincerely and politely as I can to please please label the adult content if your book is and if you don't know what adult content means, then, it is like when there are words in the book that you don't want any minor in your life to hear. Think of it as your own children, if you have or if you don't, think of it as minors in your lives that you care about and think about the things you really don't want them to read and the words you want them to avoid. You know? I hope that makes sense. Think of somethings that schools won't allow the students to do or think of things that might be rated pg or r or whatever rating movies have to state that minors should not watch it. Kids my age hear everything, but I am speaking for minors that should not read it or even children. I hope this makes sense. Thank you for reading and understanding. Sincerely, Nimit, a bookshare student member and a future advicate for all visually impaired students hopefully block quote end To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line. block quote end block quote end X-archive-position: 27215 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Errors-to: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx X-original-sender: rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx Precedence: normal Reply-To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx List-help: <mailto:ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?Subject=help> List-unsubscribe: <bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?Subject=unsubscribe> List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: bksvol-discuss <bksvol-discuss.freelists.org> X-List-ID: bksvol-discuss <bksvol-discuss.freelists.org> List-subscribe: <bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?Subject=subscribe> List-owner: <mailto:admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> List-post: <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> List-archive: <//www.freelists.org/archives/bksvol-discuss> X-list: bksvol-discuss To unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. To get a list of available commands, put the word 'help' by itself in the subject line.
On 4/3/2013 9:39 PM, Roger Loran Bailey wrote:
start reading a book that is distasteful to you you stop reading it and delete it. That is your choice and you have made that choice. When you ask other people to censor books before you can find out that you have a distaste for them, though, you are asking people to make your choices for you and to take your choice away from you. There are some words that I have a distaste for myself. Those words are usually racist or sexist terms or are other words that display bigotry. Sometimes I actually cringe when I come across such words. However, if someone tried to prevent me from encountering them I would be extremely resentful. If someone else decided for me what words I should be allowed to be exposed to without my having an input I would be more offended than I would be if I encountered the words themselves. As long as books that are marked as containing adult content are prohibited from being accessed by anyone I even oppose the adult designation at all and I would remove any adult designation on a book that I was proofreading. If the designation was there for informational purposes only, though, then that would be a different matter because you could see the designation and simply decide for yourself whether to download it or not. I am not sure that such a designation is necessary though. Notwithstanding miscategorization, if a book is listed in the children's category and not in other categories then it should be safe to assume that the book is not written for adults and if a book is not in the childrens category then it should be assumed that it is written with adults in mind. In any case, there is never a guarantee that you will like any book before you start reading it and you should not expect that other people should take responsibility for deciding that you are going to like a book or not. You can read reviews. You can listen to literary discussions. You can look to see what category a book is listed in. There are a number of ways to get a pretty good idea of whether you will like a book before you start reading it, but you will never know for sure until you actually start reading it. Once you do start reading and if you decide that it is not for you then you can just stop reading and you have already said that is what you do. Similarly, if I run into one of those words that make me cringe I can stop reading myself and I have run into them on many occasions. Guess what? It has never harmed me. Sometimes I might become a bit angry or disgusted or feel some other unpleasant emotion, but I have never been harmed. If you have come across words that you find distasteful I expect that you might feel some kind of unpleasant emotion too, but I doubt very much that you have suffered any lasting harm. You just stop reading. That should be enough. Furthermore, even if you are personally "protected" from certain words by other people who are depriving you of your right to make your own decisions about what to read it so happens that other people your age or younger are deprived at the same time. So even if you maintain the right to relinquish your own power of personal decision making then do you really have the right to ask that it be taken away from others of your age. I would say that your best move is to just continue to make your own decisions about what to read and don't ask that your choices nor anyone else's choices be censored.On 4/3/2013 4:43 PM, Nimit Kaur wrote:OK. Sorry then. I mean, then think about the words that you hear a beap in the movies or shows when it is being said. I hope I am not forced to write some here. I won't and I hope I am not forced. I mean, I really don't want to and I know not to. So, yeah, think about the words that won't be writen in the kids' books or like the words or actions, sometimes that are not in the movies rated excluding minors such as PG or R or I can't think of more yet. Sorry if I was wrong. Thank you............ On 4/3/13, Roger Loran Bailey <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote:# I cannot think of a single word I have ever read or heard in my whole life that I would not want a minor to hear or read. On 4/3/2013 4:24 PM, Nimit Kaur wrote:Dear all Bookshare volunteers, I am emailing to sincerely request all scanners to label the book adult content checkbox if it is, please? Remember, the books you are going to add to the collection will also pop up even if the minors search in the collection when you don't label it if it is adult content. i have seen many books either in the collection and in my account preferences, the books that contain adult content has been blocked or whatever that setting does, but because many people are not labeling it, I have mistakenly downloaded and deleted the book because I can't read them yet. I sincerely ask all scanners on behalf of all the minors to please please please please please please please to check the box that says "adult content" if it is when you submit the book, please? I mean, I have downloaded many books mistakenly that are not properly stated adult content either for proofing or reading for bookshare. Please understand my situation. I am sorry if I was too much, but I am just trying to ask everyone scanners as sincerely and politely as I can to please please label the adult content if your book is and if you don't know what adult content means, then, it is like when there are words in the book that you don't want any minor in your life to hear. Think of it as your own children, if you have or if you don't, think of it as minors in your lives that you care about and think about the things you really don't want them to read and the words you want them to avoid. You know? I hope that makes sense. Think of somethings that schools won't allow the students to do or think of things that might be rated pg or r or whatever rating movies have to state that minors should not watch it. Kids my age hear everything, but I am speaking for minors that should not read it or even children. I hope this makes sense. Thank you for reading and understanding. Sincerely, Nimit, a bookshare student member and a future advicate for all visually impaired students hopefullyTo unsubscribe from this list send a blank Email to bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxput the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the subject line. 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