Then they need to take the download limitations off so we are not wasting our time reading what we may not like.
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Amen, Roger! I'm entirely with you on this one! Sandi
----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Loran Bailey <mailto:rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 11:51 AM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Adult ContentI will say this again. There is no way possible to know that you will not like a book until you read it. You might get an idea by reading reviews and listening to people discuss books, but you will not actually know until you try it. You should also not expect other people to filter your books for you. Their opinions of what you will or will not like may not be the same as your own opinions. For that reason I would suggest that books just be submitted in the same manner as any other book no matter what kind of language they might contain. If a proofreader turns out to not like it then that proofreader can just release it.
On 11/9/2012 8:03 PM, Cindy Rosenthal wrote:
Hmmm. But what about our sensitive members who don't like to read books with profanity or explicit sex; should we, raher than label them AC, put some kind of warning somewhere? Does what we put in the Comments section get attached to the book fle? I'munder the impression that those comments are only for the book share administrators, e.g. like errors in punctuation and spelling are as they are in the print book.
I think I have in the past put such "warnings" in the synopsis or somewhere but told it didn't belong there.Cindy
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Madeleine Linares <Madeleinel@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Madeleinel@xxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi everyone,
I thought it was about time for a refresher course in what we mean by Adult Content (also known as âACâ). There has been some confusion (off-list) and Iâve noticed it incorrectly marked in the Approval Queue.
Here is a note from our Collection Development Manager on our definition:
âOur policy, developed in conjunction with our OSEP funders, is that there are certain kinds of content -- explicit depictions of sexual acts with no redeeming social value, as well as extreme and gratuitous violence -- will require a minor to get an adult guardian's permission to access. As a "content-neutral" collection, we will never exclude a title for any potentially controversial or distasteful content, but we will tag some content for adult (or minors with a guardian's permission) use only. The idea is that parents can control the access their kids have to content deemed potentially inappropriate -- but they don't have the right to control or limit access to anybody else's kids.
The "walking into a bookstore or library" test continues to be a good one. Could a non-print-disabled kid walk into a good bookstore or public library and get a copy of this book without an adult being involved? If the answer is yes, a print-disabled kid should be able to do the same on Bookshare. We are not interested in placing additional barriers to access for our members that their peers do not experience. This means we do have stuff available to members under 18 that has sex, and swearing, and violence, and substance abuse in it, and that is okay and in keeping with the generally recognized standards of "freedom to read" policy in this country.
We don't have a perfect implementation of this policy yet -- I see evidence that we were a little more strait-laced in the early days (and fix it when I come across it), and our automated filtering from publisher feeds still needs some fine-tuning. When I'm trying to navigate something particular "gray area-y" like the steamier of the romances coming in, I ask myself about the intent -- is the action (even if hot and heavy) designed to move the characters towards relationship, or is the plot driven only by the need to get body parts intermingling again? It's the latter that's clearly AC, while the former continues to be ambiguous. Author intent is, alas, pretty gray-area-y and subjective itself, but I think it can help separate the sheep from the goats.â
Adult content is confusing and clearly not black and white. Many romances (such as a lot of the Harlequin ones), though certainly racy, should not be labeled as AC. A 16-year-old could walk into a book store and buy ones of those books just as easily as a 38-year old, although his or her parents might not approve and might consider the content inappropriate. Anyway, just thought it couldnât hurt to remind everyone!
Feel free to contact me with questions, as always.
Best,
Madeleine Linares
Volunteer Coordinator
Bookshare, a Benetech Initiative
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