[bksvol-discuss] Re: A question of formatting

  • From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 13:33:45 -0400

Yes, I do the same thing. Actually, my K1000 is very good about leaving blank lines where they appear in the book, so I almost never have to insert them myself. All the books I scan and/or read through go into my personal library, and I just think it's aesthetically nicer to have blank lines where they appear in the book, even though I know that Bookshare will remove them unless I put in the asterisks. Sometimes, I remove extra ones when K1000 puts in more than one, often at the beginnings of chapters. I just don't tend to preserve them with asterisks around chapter titles is all; but I do indicate them for scene changes as I said before.


Evan

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob W" <rwiley45@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 10:27 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A question of formatting


Well I guess I'll dive in here.

I always put in blank lines just because I think they are more ... uh ...
prittier <lol>.

I know the stripper (call me old fashioned for using that word) is going to
strip those lines right out. But, that's just me.

As Mayrie says changes of scenes are a different matter. Three asterisks
seems like a good way to differentiate them.

Just my ten cents worth. <Inflation you know.>

Bob


"Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being
governed by those who are dumber." Aristotle

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mayrie ReNae" <mayrierenae@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 9:05 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A question of formatting


Hi Sue,

As I said, it's a matter of preference. The only situation in which I would
really strongly push for keeping the asterisks to preserve a blank line is
the situation in which a blank line exists within a chapter to denote a
scene change, but a new chapter doesn't dstart at that point, so there's no
indicator other than the white space, or in our case, the asterisks to let
the reader know to expect something new.

And, as I said, the other instances, surrounding chapter headings, is really
a matter of preference.  I understand the arguments for both options and
respect both. So, I'd request that if you want to ignore blank lines around
chapter headings, go ahead, because the chapter heading (the writing of
"chapter 1" or whatever) will let me know that something is changing, but if
there is white space within a chapter, indicating a change of topic, or
scene, please note it by using three asterisks to do so.

In the end, it's all the choice of the individual proofreader. This is just
my opinion.  And I hope I've explained why I have it well enough to be
understood.

Does any of that help?

Mayrie



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sue Stevens
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 5:40 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A question of formatting


Hi Mayrie,

It may make sense to Kim but not to me.  If we put the blank lines in, and
if the tools take them out unless there are asterisks to keep them, why keep
them?  They are not present in PQ books.  I have wondered if it is time to
let go of that method.  Just my thought.

Sue S.


-----Original Message-----
From: Mayrie ReNae
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 6:50 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A question of formatting

Hi Kim,

As Bookshare has no set rules on this, it is a matter of opinion.  So,
here's mine.  Yes, where you suggest there should be blank lines, I put
them.  That said, remember that Bookshare's tools don't preserve any white
space (blank lines).  So, where you have a blank line, you would then put
three asterisks so that the reader of the copy of the book once it hits the
Bookshare collection, will know that there was a blank line to begin with.

Does that all make sense?

Mayrie



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kim Friedman
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 11:36 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A question of formatting

Hi, Mayrie, I understand what you're saying. Let me put this another
way: let us say I have a page I'm working on. Below the page number is a
part number with a title, below that is a chapter number without a title,
and below that is the text on that particular page. Let's say I have put the
part number plus its title at 18 pt. type and it's bolded in Times New
Roman. Let's add that the chapter heading has been bolded and at 16 pt. type in the same font. What I want to know is this: should there be a blank line
between the part title and the chapter heading?
Another question is if a chapter heading appears in the middle of the page, should there be blank lines between the last line of text and the heading of
the chapter I'm about to proofread? Also, after I've done the usual thing
with the chapter title (16 pt. type, bolded, Times new Roman, changes saved) should there be a blank line after the chapter marking the beginning of the
text for that chapter? Regards, Kim Friedman. P.S.: I hope I made myself
clear as that is what I was concerned about in my last message on this
thread. Thanks much for the advice. K.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mayrie ReNae
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 8:35 PM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A question of formatting


Hi Kim,

What you do is fine except for one thing.  Your chapter headings need not
only to be bold, but in 16 point font if the body is 12 point. If you have
a part number and a chapter number on the same page, or anywhere else for
that matter, the Part 1, or whatever it's called will need to be bold and in 18-point font, chapter heading at 16-point and body of the text of the book at 12-point. If you do not enlarge the title of the book to 20 point, parts
to 18-point, and chapter headings to 16-point with chapter sections at
14-point, there will not be proper daisy navigation.  This navigation is
important in my opinion.

Putting asterisks on the line before and after a chapter heading or part,
will let the reader know that there was white space in the book to begin
with.

Hope all that helps.

Mayrie



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kim Friedman
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2011 8:19 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] A question of formatting

Hi, all of the books I've proofread in the past put new chapters at the top
of the page. I mention this because the present book I'm working on has
chapters in the middle of the page and I'd like your opinion how to format
this. Here's what I've done so far: After the last sentence of the previous chapter, I entered a blank line where I wrote in three asterisks, after this
line of asterisks, there's the next chapter heading which is bolded, and
after that I entered another blank line on which I wrote three asterisks. Is this correct procedure? My object for doing this is to insure there will be blank space surrounding the chapter title. Another question I have is how to
format a page in which the Part number, its title, and the chapter heading
appears on the same page. How does one format this? Should there be a blank line between the Part title and the chapter heading? I'm concerned that the
file looks good when it's checked in. Regards, Kim Friedman.

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