[bksvol-discuss] Re: A question about page breaks
- From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 15:11:10 -0400
Dear Natalie,
Like you, I check each page break manually with the arrow keys. I'm not only
checking that the break is there, but also verifying that the spacing for the
page number if it's at the top of the page has a blank line above and below
it. I mostly use the arrow anyway so I won't miss some little detail that could
use fixing. Since I'm not validating for the fifty cents, I'm one of those
volunteers who wants the book to be squeaky clean when I submit it. It's both a
challenge and matter of pride.
You know, I'm actually not positive about what I'm doing. One way I conclude
there's a page break is that jaws says a page number in a lower voice which
isn't always the number before the actual number on the page that follows.
Those low voiced numbers can be as many as ten pages different from the book's
numbering. I wind up keeping track of both, figuring neither should have
skipped numbers.
Keep asking questions, Natalie. I learn from them too though I didn't
understand Gerald's answer to your question about soft page breaks. I think it
doesn't matter if I get the difference between soft and hard breaks since I
just use that arrow and seem to find them....I hope!
Always With Love,
Lissi
----- Original Message -----
From: Natalie
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 2:44 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A question about page breaks
Hi, and thanks for your help. I guess what I was looking for was a way to be
able to detect a page break while reading with the insert two for say all so I
didn't have to arrow line by line, but I guess I will just have to arrow to
find the page breaks and just a bit slower in my reading. That's fine though,
and thanks for your help.
Natalie
----- Original Message -----
From: Gerald Hovas
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 12:14 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A question about page breaks
Natalie,
From what I remember of using Word Perfect back in the DOS days, Spg does
mean soft page break or one that occurs in Word Perfect because of the page
length. HPg means hard page break and occurs because Word Perfect encounters a
Page Break character.
If I understood you correctly, you said you were reading a book from the
collection in Word Perfect. That would be why you don't see any hard page
breaks in the book. I don't believe HTML and XML allow hard page breaks,
therefore, the hard page breaks would be removed as part of the processing to
turn the book into a DAISY book. I don't think the locations of the hard page
breaks are lost, however, in the DAISY books. It's been two or three years
since I read a description of the DAISY standard, but from what I remember, my
impression was that the information is recorded in one of the additional files
that are included with the XML file in the DAISY books along with other
navigation information like the location of specific pages and chapters.
Try using Reveal Codes on a book downloaded from the Step 1 page, either a
new book or one you worked on in the past. You can also try adding a hard page
break to a file then looking at it with Reveal Codes turned on. It seems like
you insert one using Ctrl-Enter like Word, K-1000, and OpenBook, but I could be
getting it confused with those software packages, so you might try Shift-Enter
or just looking up the proper key combination in the Help information.
HTH
Gerald
-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 12:12 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] A question about page breaks
Hi everyone. I know this is probably going to be a stupid question, but
can anyone tell me how to find page breaks when using Word Perfect? I'm using
wq11 and Jaws 6.0 and have been unsuccessful in finding them. I tried reading
with reveal codes and could only find spg which I'm assuming means a soft page
break. I guess I'm confused because I'm currently reading a book I downloaded
from the colection because I was trying to test the reveal codes thing before I
got a another book to validate, and I only found soft page breaks in the book.
Or at least, I'm assuming that's what spg means. Anyway, I was just curious so
thought I would ask.
Natalie
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