Knowing about "the other" in order to work with them, unionize with them, etc., is worthwhile. To get to know "the other" in order to study them like corporations study the competition is troubling. Asking ourselves--why do other countries focus on educating their young people, while we focus on empire building is a question worth asking. This article represents typical capitalist propaganda anyway--they define the terms, and then we battle each other to try to fit into their model: hard working, non-questioning, etc. I worked 14 hours a day through my high-tech career. So, did thousands of my co-workers. We worked hard. We worked smart. We worked creatively. We got a piece of the pie, but we had to ignore our families and our communities and our democracy. Look what it got us. Roberta -----Original Message----- From: biztech-discussion-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:biztech-discussion-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of MzWord@xxxxxxx Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 12:26 PM To: biztech-discussion@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [biztech-discussion] Re: New twist to pro-offshoring arguments Andreas is right. We have known for some time that the quality of education in many, many countries is higher than in the U.S. public system. The motivation plus skill level of East Indians is enormous. In India, once they got rid of the official caste system, it unleashed powerful forces of heretofore repressed populations of dynamic individuals, especially women, rearing to go. You just don't see that here, at least not this decade -- except among immigrant populations. Read the article, ya'll! A smart thing to do would be for the Union membership to become as educated as it can be about the countries and populations that are taking on offshored work. We cannot make the mistake of not knowing "the other." It's one of the big failures of U.S. policy in other areas, and we can't afford to be ignorant about other countries and cultures. If Arnold needs to save money now by offshoring State work, it may come back to haunt him. I'll bet his top financial advisors are making it seem like it's THE thing to do, too. Lisa