Well, speaking as a (very) amateur herpetologist and childhood snake hunter, cottonmouths often swim with their heads above the surface, but not always. Likewise, I've seen non-venomous watersnakes swim on the surface and below it. Both snakes will swim to the bottom and stay put if threatened. As you may know, there aren't a lot of western cottonmouths in Kentucky except for the western end of the state, but they do move a bit and some have been (allegedly) spotted as far east as the Glasgow area (and also along the Ohio River). Both cottonmouths and non-venomous water snakes show a lot of variation in color/pattern. Some are very dark--almost completely black or dark brown; others show prominent bands. Some of this depends on the age of the snake. Fully mature cottonmouths can get very large and are very heavy-bodied, like their pit-viper cousins, rattlesnakes and copperheads. But mostly you will see smaller and younger snakes. Behaviorally, on land, all pit-vipers (cottonmouths, copperheads and rattlers) tend to hold their ground when approached. They rely on their natural camouflage and striking ability, if necessary. Non-venomous water snakes tend to flee when approached. They'll quickly get into the water if possible. But I think it is hard to generalize about snakes as there is some variation in appearance and behavior. I never try to handle any kind of water snake, as even the non-venomous ones are quick to strike if you try to pick one up. Michael Hamm Danville -----Original Message----- From: birdky-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:birdky-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sid Easley Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 9:08 AM To: birdky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [birdky] snake question I have heard that a non-venomous water snake swims with its entire length=20 on the surface of the water, but a venomous snake will swim with most of its body under the surface. Is there any truth to this? Inquiring minds=20 need to know. Melissa Easley Murray, Ky. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DNOTES TO = SUBSCRIBERS=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The BIRDKY Mailing List requires you to sign=20 your messages with first & last name, city, &=20 state abbreviation. -------------------------------------------------- To post to this mailing list, send e-mail to: birdky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx --------------------------------------------------=20 To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: birdky-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject line. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * =20 Visit the Kentucky Ornithological Society web site at http://www.biology.eku.edu/kos.htm * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *=20 BIRDKY List Manager: Gary Ritchison, Richmond, KY E-mail: gary.ritchison@xxxxxxx ================NOTES TO SUBSCRIBERS============== The BIRDKY Mailing List requires you to sign your messages with first & last name, city, & state abbreviation. -------------------------------------------------- To post to this mailing list, send e-mail to: birdky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: birdky-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject line. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Visit the Kentucky Ornithological Society web site at http://www.biology.eku.edu/kos.htm * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * BIRDKY List Manager: Gary Ritchison, Richmond, KY E-mail: gary.ritchison@xxxxxxx