If you really want to delve into this topic, I recommend Outwitting Squirrels (101 Cunning Stratagems to Reduce Dramatically the Egregious Misappropriation of Seed from Your Birdfeeder by Squirrels) by Bill Adler, Jr. From: Ann Morgan Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:15 PM To: birdky Subject: [birdky] (birdky) Re: Squirrel-proof feeders I am a bit late weighing in on this discussion, but am still going to as it seems to be a problem for a great many birders. We have lived in the same house surrounded by oak and hickory trees and bordered by a farm field for 37 years. We have had a yard full of squirrels, numerous raccoons, deer and groundhogs and have fed birds all of those years. We have tried many different methods to defeat the squirrels. We have tried the "squirrel-proof" feeders, wires. and various baffles, etc. , but eventually a smart squirrel outsmarts us. So far, our most successful endeavor has been a home-made telescoping pole made from rigid conduit set in concrete. My husband drilled holes in the conduit at several heights and the pole can be lowered for ease in filling. The pole is quite tall with two feeders hung from a shepherd's hook on top. He has 24 inches of 6 inch diameter duct pipe wired to the pole. On top of the duct pipe, he has an institutional size vegetable can sprayed black (6 In diameter) with a hole drilled in it for the pole to go through. The height of the feeders and the length of the duct pipe is important for keeping raccoons out also. The height helps with the deer. We have had to trim off several branches from nearby trees when some brave squirrels risked their lives trying to jump and we keep it far enough from our house to prevent jumping from the roof. The squirrels and other critters still seem to enjoy eating under the feeder and help keep the sunflower hulls to a minimum. Marian has drawn a diagram and if anyone is interested, I will be glad to email it to them. Ann Morgan Hopkins County marianandann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx