Speaking of cardinals, I believe I have a juvenile that is almost completely brownish-gray. How long before a juvenile gets some color and isn't it a bit late in the season for him/her to not be showing any color at all? I need to download my photo to the computer to look at his/her bill, I guess... Millie Louisville, KY ----- Original Message ----- From: Rdhealy1951@xxxxxxx To: warriah@xxxxxxxxx ; birdky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 9:11 PM Subject: [birdky] Re: Splotchy Northern Cardinals? mixture of adult and juvenile cardinals. Adults have orange bills juveniles have dark bills.Rich ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.