That's true, Scott. The other thing that effected the original bluegrass
landscape were the large grazers (bison, elk). Particularly the periodic,
nomadic nature of their grazing. This combined with the high amount of
rainfall, produced widely spaced trees (but plenty of them, not quite a forest
maybe, but a woodland nonetheless) with a dense understory of rich cane, etc.
On a related note, Tom Kimmerer's book Venerable Trees just came out. It looks
great.
http://www.kimmerer.com/venerable-trees-book/
Mark
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Scott <smarsh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 11:17 AM
To: 'canonrose@xxxxxxx'; ask@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; sfp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ask] Re: Depressing article
Actually it was not forest only because of the tendency of the native Americans
to burn it off. they did this for the better hunting. Otherwise, any place that
gets as much rain as we do, will be forested.
Scott
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They are not barren. You just can't see the life that is there as you drive by
on a road. A desert isn't barren. You just have to look harder to see the
life. I've lived in 5 states. I=v been so to Newfoundland, where the soil is
so thin that many plants will not grow there, but a carnivorous plant does
because it feeds on insects. I don't suppose she'd like Newfoundland much
either.
And here's another thing about the land. The Bluegrass was never forested. It
was a savannah. They can explain that to you at the Division of Forestry while
they encourage people to plant bur oaks and other native trees. The absence of
forests was one reason the Bluegrass made such good farm land and why the early
settlers (mostly farmers) prospered.
I feel like I'm inventing the wheel here. I'm not a native (moved here in
1966) and I don't usually go in for cheerleading for anything. I was an organic
gardener before I knew the word, I use no chemicals on my gardens, and not a
leaf from my trees has ever been picked up. It all goes into mulch/compost.
And I have great soil, because, they say, it was once a horse farm. My church
on Parker's Mill Road next to a small horse farm is about to begin work on a
large butterfly garden which will be, we hope, a Monarch Waystation.
Somebody go plant a bur oak. You'll feel better.
Rose
Rose Canon
---- Sydney Penner <sfp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
To be fair to the author, she did say that there were places that have
birds. She's not ignorant of that fact. I took her point to be that
surrounding those places there are all too many vast swaths of space
that appears to be green yet is biologically barren.
Given all the research showing the dangers of merely fragmentary
nature preserves, these barren spaces should concern us. And, having
lived in four different states and three other countries, I have to
say that the inner bluegrass region has far more such barrenness than
any other place I've lived.
Are there exceptions, places where one can find birds and other
wildlife? Absolutely, and we should be grateful for them. But I think
there is also plenty of room for improvement. The more of us do with
our yards what David did with his property, the better.
Sydney
On 10/27/2015 10:10 AM, Rose wrote:
Exactly, Dave. The author should have talked to you or looked at our
website, or she could have gone to Shaker Village to see how farmland is
being restored. As to the horse farms, my CBC team birds on Ramsay Farm
with very good results. It's where we saw the Ross's goose a few yrs. ago.
Moreover, and perhaps more important, the horse farms and the will to
preserve them are the main roadblock to rampant urban sprawl and shopping
centers that have paved over so much land. She might have learned this if
she had done a little research. Instead she drove down one road and leaped
to conclusions. She could have stopped at Buckley Sanctuary on her way to
Frankfort if it were still there.
Rose
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 27, 2015, at 9:52 AM, David Lang <de_lang@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I also found this to be true with my neighbors out here in Scott County.
When they subdivided the farm behind my original lot, the new neighbors
immediately cleared all the brushy areas in favor of big expanses of lawn.
They even offered to help me clear out my brush. However, that was not my
plan. Instead I have left my additional acreage to grow unmolested with
the exception of walking paths that I maintain. It has been wonderful to
see the open pastureland starting to succeed back into woodland over the
past 15 years. I look forward to the next 15+ years to watch the further
progression. The truly amazing thing to me is that I have not gotten any
direct criticism for departing from the norm and most of the neighbors
seam to enjoy the wild area with the walking paths.
I have been rewarded in my effort in having a good diversity of birds on
the property. My yard list now runs to 142 species. I usually get a nice
mix of migrants stopping in the spring and fall as well as resident birds
in the summer and winter.
Landscaping for wildlife is something everyone with a yard can do. I have
had the advantage of not really having had to do much, other than not mow.
However, for those in the city with smaller yards can still do a lot to
move away from big expanses of lawn by converting some of it to native
plants and shrubs and adding some brushy areas that provide food and cover
for wildlife. Just look at Lexington Cemetery to see what birds can be
found in downtown Lexington.
David
From: Mark Tower <markdt7@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: ASK <ask@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 12:20 PM
Subject: [ask] Re: Depressing article
I wanted you all to see Sydney's comment/question and my response to them.
If anyone has other thoughts (or corrections to mine) about this I'd be
interested to hear them.
Mark
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From: Mark Tower <markdt7@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 12:17 PM
To: Sydney Penner
Subject: Re: [ask] Re: Depressing article
I certainly think this is an American thing in general. Folks that live in
the desert southwest try to have grass lawns. It's perplexing for sure.
I'd love to know the underpinnings of this theme. I've heard a couple
things.
First, the primary original (and continuing) gardening influence in this
country is English. And England has plenty of manicured landscapes (with
or without other things other than grass). This remains the overriding
sense of what is "beautiful" in this country when it comes to
human-influenced landscapes. As a side note, I find it odd that most
anyone can look at a truly natural landscape and appreciate beauty, even
powerful beauty. But they think (maybe subconsciously) that's ok for a
state/national park, but when it comes to their own property (large or
small) they revert to the standard landscaping.
Second, and I just heard this recently, the human attraction for the
English estate-look may be something of an evolutionary thing. Someone
suggested that the large overstory trees, well spaced, with good line of
sight underneath was the perfect combination of providing shelter, seeing
prey, detecting danger.
Now the bluegrass region is a whole different animal. Somewhere along the
way the typical horse farm got to look the way it does. At this point,
enough people find the horse farm appealing that it has become the
bluegrass "brand." It's what's unique for Lexington, and is it's primary
marketable feature. Unfortunately, I don't think there's any (not even a
little) political will to do anything to change the landscape features of
the area. In fact, I've heard there's plenty of farms that are no longer
financially viable, but are kept up with outside money (?taxes) to
maintain the "brand."
Mark
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From: Sydney Penner <sfp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 11:28 AM
To: markdt7@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ask] Re: Depressing article
I was able to read the whole article as a free preview, but it's
entirely possible that what it is possible to view for free varies
from user to user.
And, yes, the vast green deserts around Lexington are one of the
most striking -- and depressing -- features of the area. That was
the first thing I noticed from the air already when I first flew into
Lexington.
What was considered good landscaping in the previous places I lived
always involved lots of trees and shrubs, not just large expanses
of manicured grass. In England, for example, a properly maintained
estate may have some manicured grass, but it will also have
hedgerows and trees. Never mind birds for the moment. Some of us
think a landscape just looks nicer if it is filled with trees,
shrubs, herbaceous ornamentals, etc. And, of course, that ends up
being better for the birds, too.
I'm still perplexed by the local fondness for manicured grass. Most
Americans seem to like their lawns, but it's carried to a further
extreme around Lexington. Any idea why?
Sydney
On 10/26/2015 10:57 AM, Mark Tower wrote:
Thanks, Rose.
Is everyone else having this problem as well?
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From: Rose <canonrose@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 9:33 AM
To: markdt7@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ask] Depressing article
You have to subscribe to read the whole article.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 26, 2015, at 8:15 AM, Mark Tower
<markdt7@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:markdt7@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I read this
article<http://cp.mcafee.com/d/FZsSd6Qm67PhO-ZtB4TsSztxwsC--YedETooud7dT3hO-rhKMMejvvuudETood7bxEVoshdQlSd2oaIvFqk2fDQVsTo_iQE4vfFOVLTAjhOWCU_R-hvud7arDnKnjK-DPb1EVvjsVqWdAklkrIsG7DR8OJMddECQPtPtPo08xaa1zpS9_6y4yfQCngAhBfj-nMxaa1zpS9_6y4yfQDAaCvl8v4lg-TGAfyaFThvMAIhed7abiOFOrjq9PIpv10TJ2FsxlK5L1jIvY-l9QU02rhojvjdCBLq5jiWq80nWhEw3LmzZaiwhd46NDaN_CQTzogcoArn->
in the most recent issue of Bird Watcher's Digest. Julie Zickefoose
touched on many themes in the column, but for a few paragraphs there is
(in my opinion) one of the most scathingly accurate assessment of the
environmental life of the inner Bluegrass. Gave me a sick feeling in my
stomach.
Bird Watcher's Digest - November/December 2015 For more than 30
years, Bird Watcher's Digest has been entertaining and informing bird
watchers with our blend of excellent feature articles, bird species
profiles, accounts of birding adventures, and stunning art and
photography. Each 112-page issue of BWD covers a variety of topics from
bird feeding and wildlife gardening to choosing birding gear, and
improving your bird-spotting and identification skills. But most of all,
BWD is delightfully enjoyable to read from cover to cover. Why? Because
BWD is created and published by bird watchers, for bird watchers. We
think you'll agree that once you open your first issue of Bird Watcher's
Digest, you won't be able to put it down.
Read
more...<http://cp.mcafee.com/d/1jWVIedEIcfCzBZWXa9KVJ6X30VdZZUsrhK
MMYqerK6zBYSztxwsC--YYrhKMMqen3hOMUyrEHIq4Mlo_iQE4vfFOVKN-BFg8-vjB
PvL8CzBRdN_HYy-YqekTeLsKDtZfCm3hO-CVORQr8EGEToVkffGhBrwqrjdFCXCXCM
0h2kk36PIj-d494vFcKx8zauDYLx2kk36PIj-d494vFf8lc-Gg-8GxZLl8v4ljKy_x
9oysqekmBBjASCQjDoO-21Lq5iV2Hsbu2Do_VYGjFM04SyMC-CrdbuQaCBQQg0LQzh
07uJ7WkB0yq8dzelz_dFL6MY-T>
I'd say "enjoy," but it's really more like "read and weep."
Mark