Yeah it does. I will see if it works. Funny how not everyone has an issue
either. I am guessing it’s related to possibly the chipset on the board or
something.
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that is how I am interpreting the ramblings of a guy on an internet forum. I
don't have real research to back this up claim. but it sounds good. doesnt it.
On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Marty Brownell <marty.brownell@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:marty.brownell@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
hen an application runs in fullscreen mode, it runs in "exclusive mode". That
means it has full and direct control over the screen output.
So does that mean the game has control over the screen output?
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a little forum searching and found this explanation why windowed mode doesn't
crash, Windows 10 is still in charge of your drivers instead of relying on the
game.
When an application runs in fullscreen mode, it runs in "exclusive mode". That
means it has full and direct control over the screen output.
But when it runs in window mode, it needs to send its output to the window
manager (windows explorer) which then manages where on the screen that output
is drawn. This takes some additional performance. The performance penalty,
however, is greatly reduced in newer version of windows.
On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 10:07 AM, Marty Brownell <marty.brownell@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:marty.brownell@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Yes you can go fullscreen or windowed. I set it to windowed and made it fill
the screen. It seemed to be okay last night it will be interesting to see if
it has crashed when I get home tonight.
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Is there a non-Windowed mode for MineCraft? I guess I've never seen that or
looked for it.
On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 7:26 AM, Martin Brownell <marty.brownell@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:marty.brownell@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
So I my Minecraft game still crashes but I found something that might be a
workaround for Win10. I ran the game in windowed mode last night and it didn't
crash. So I will test some more. I have heard of people fixing some crashing
issues that way. Anyone got any ideas why that would work?
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Martin Brownell <marty.brownell@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:marty.brownell@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
probably won't be able to make it crash now. :-)
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 12:21 PM, James Theunplesant <neonghost@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:neonghost@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Yeah finding the right time is the key. Window reporting is not as robust as
you would hope, even on servers it's ok. I don't know of after market one
though.
Rev. James C Snyder
Ordained Dudeist Priest of Dudeism
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, the Church of the Latter-Day Dude
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Martin Brownell <marty.brownell@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:marty.brownell@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
kewl. Thanks.
I'll try rerunning it and check the error. There are alot on there so I want to
make sure that it's specifically related to the crashing.
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:42 AM, James Theunplesant <neonghost@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:neonghost@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Under manage pc in the event viewer. The errors are just organized by time
reported.
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, the Church of the Latter-Day Dude
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:40 AM, Martin Brownell <marty.brownell@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:marty.brownell@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
So question... what logs should I look at?
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Martin Brownell <marty.brownell@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:marty.brownell@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
:-) yeah and it's not rage quitting either
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Loren John Bailey <beetle.loren@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:beetle.loren@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
I knew it was malicious software!
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Martin Brownell <marty.brownell@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:marty.brownell@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Mainly Minecraft but not solely. But yes Minecraft crashes constantly. I can't
even play for more than 10-15 minutes.
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Loren John Bailey <beetle.loren@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:beetle.loren@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Is it just Minecraft that has a problem?
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Martin Brownell <marty.brownell@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:marty.brownell@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Well Technically I haven't really wiped my entire system, I installed Win 8.1
on a new drive rather than completely destroying my Win10 drive. but you do
have me thinking.... maybe I should go back to the system logs.
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Ryan Hawley <ryan.hawley@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:ryan.hawley@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
i'll do some further log diving tonight. i checked a couple weeks ago and i
never got errors on the freezups. maybe i should let it sit wilst frozen.. see
if the system can work something out to a log.
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Martin Brownell <marty.brownell@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:marty.brownell@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
The crashes sometimes have a Kernal error sometimes a NVidia Driver error and
sometimes no error, it just freezes.
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:28 AM, James Theunplesant <neonghost@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:neonghost@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Stupid winders, you should be able to crank up reporting to log everything. On
and Off are not options.
Rev. James C Snyder
Ordained Dudeist Priest of Dudeism
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, the Church of the Latter-Day Dude
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Loren John Bailey <beetle.loren@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:beetle.loren@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
That's what was really weird when I was unable to install drivers. The install
would fail and nothing was reported in any of the logs about it. It was pretty
frustrating.
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:21 AM, James Theunplesant <neonghost@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:neonghost@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Check the system logs for errors maybe? Event Viewer should have something,
ever if it's just an event that the driver crashed.
Rev. James C Snyder
Ordained Dudeist Priest of Dudeism
<http://dudeism.com/ordcertificate-print.php?ordname=James%20Christopher%20Snyder&orddate=08/19/2015>
, the Church of the Latter-Day Dude
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Ryan Hawley <ryan.hawley@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:ryan.hawley@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
I did the same thing this weekend.
I'm running into similar issues with my dual 290x's and gigabyte board. I get
hard freezes while playing games. I initially thought it was the insider
preview builds of windows 10 that i'm on, reverted back to retail windows 10,
still freezes. Did a clean install, driver updates, etc. Same issue.
I think i'll follow your lead and go back to 8.1 and see what happens.
I don't get any BSOD or error codes. The screen just goes black, secondary
screen remains but everything is frozen.
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On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:36 AM, James Theunplesant <neonghost@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:neonghost@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Back the truck up? Maybe even a gee wilikers!
MS have a new Win10 version of Minecraft that you can DL from the store.
Normal ver worked for me though in sli.
Any error codes with your crashes? And are these app crashes or OS?
Rev. James C Snyder
Ordained Dudeist Priest of Dudeism
<http://dudeism.com/ordcertificate-print.php?ordname=James%20Christopher%20Snyder&orddate=08/19/2015>
, the Church of the Latter-Day Dude
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Loren John Bailey <beetle.loren@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:beetle.loren@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
It's not that you can't, it's more like I'm pretty certain you didn't. Or any
of those either!
On Oct 19, 2015 7:58 AM, "Martin Brownell" <marty.brownell@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:marty.brownell@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Ohh yes Asus.... you are correct. Did I say ATI? it's early.:-)
What? I can't say Fiddle sticks? Or Darn, or Shucks????
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 7:55 AM, Loren John Bailey <beetle.loren@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:beetle.loren@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Should we replace ATI with Asus throughout this email? I'm confused if not.
Also, let's replace fiddlesticks with a more accurate word while we're at it...
On Oct 19, 2015 7:48 AM, "Martin Brownell" <marty.brownell@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:marty.brownell@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
So I wiped my PC, reinstalled Win10. The crashing problem continued. So I
pulled my EVGA card.... crashing continued. So I pulled the ATI card and
replaced with EVGA. Crashing continued. I then realized I never did install all
the system drivers that came with the board. So I spent much of the night doing
that, Crashing continued.
I said "Oh fiddle sticks" and installed Windows 8.1, SLI'd the cards. So far it
ran Minecraft all night and no crashes. You would think with Microsoft Owning
Minecraft that they might want to make sure it works with Win10.
I am sure i have some weird combination of hardware in this system that is the
issue, because my ATI laptop works fine and can play minecraft.
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Loren John Bailey <beetle.loren@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:beetle.loren@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
It used to be several years ago. You used to be advised to disable it if you
install another video card. Blue screens were common. I haven't had to do it my
past few builds though.
On Oct 16, 2015 6:24 PM, "Marty Brownell" <marty.brownell@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:marty.brownell@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Good to know. I was wondering if it was an issue or not. Thanks
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I use the onboard video to drive my second monitor without issue.
It is funny to watch games like hearthstone have a moment as they get handed
off to the Intel graphics when I move Windows from the SLI.
JC Snyder
On Oct 16, 2015 6:10 PM, "Loren John Bailey" <beetle.loren@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:beetle.loren@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
No, not manually
On Oct 16, 2015 5:58 PM, "Marty Brownell" <marty.brownell@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:marty.brownell@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Did your install also install the intel HD drivers too?
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Yes it does.
On Oct 16, 2015 5:56 PM, "Marty Brownell" <marty.brownell@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:marty.brownell@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
I am wiping my gaming rig and starting over with a clean install of Windows10
to see if that helps with the issues I have been having. Killin’ mentioned it
really helped him. Hey Killin, does your board also have built in video?
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