David, I am going with the opinion that sick time belongs to the employer because it is not something that is required by federal law. http://www.dol.gov/dol/topic/workhours/sickleave.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Thompson" <dthom5303@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <badges@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 8:49 AM Subject: Badges - Re: Gov. Christie close to deal on ending public employee payouts for unused sick days > Howard: > First of all, you ignored my earlier post by deferring to you for > additional thoughts and information as to whether or not sick days are > considered property of the employee or employer. > > Second, what planet are you on? You talk about what is going on now, but > you totally ignored my point of what got us here. What got us here is the > prostitution of our vote for politicians who promised us everything and > expected someone else to pay for it. This is almost exclusively the realm > of the democrat party but, if you note, I didn't bring up party but > philosophy. > > So, since you ventured into the pejorative, what are your suggestions to > fix the problem? We have always had good discussions, what is up with > your comment? > > Also, if you had read the entire post and not knee jerked you would have > read how the Michigan legislature this week has pimped us retirees by no > longer exempting us from income tax on our pensions which will cost me > around $2500.00 more per year. Also, this week, my city council raised my > property tax several hundred dollars. So I know exactly what is going on > and I know exactly what sacrifices will have to be made. > > Do you? > > David G. Thompson > Retired Admin LT > Midland PD, MI > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is > for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential > and proprietary information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or > distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient(s), > please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the > original message. > > > > >> From: hmellon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> To: badges@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: Badges - Re: Gov. Christie close to deal on ending public >> employee payouts for unused sick days >> Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 02:23:16 -0400 >> >> I gather you arent in Wisconsin or Ohio where the CONSERVATIVE >> REPUBLICANS >> are sticking the shaft up public employee's butts? Its not liberal v. >> conservative, its rich v. poor. >> >> The last election brought both houses of the Ohio legislature under >> Republican control and we also elected a Republican governor. Just about >> their first order of business was to enact legislation which: >> >> 1. prohibits all public employees from strking. >> 2. requires a minimum level of contribution for health insurance. >> 3. ends binding arbitration for public safety employees (we were >> prohibited from striking already, so had binding arbitration). >> 4. does not allow collective bargaining for anything but wages. >> 5. if there is no agreement on wages, the government can just enact their >> last offer, take it or leave it. >> >> I presume the Liberals will win the next election, hands down. >> >> The governor says that once he finishes balancing the budget by slashing >> the >> payroll and anything that isnt a giveaway to big business, his next order >> of >> business is to reduce taxes. And I am in big business and I think the guy >> is absurd. >> >> Thompson, what planet are you on? >> >> >> Howard >> >> From: "David Thompson" <dthom5303@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> > I place the blame squarely on the liberals. They promise and promise >> > and >> > promise and get elected. Then when the bill comes, they look for >> > someone >> > else to pay it. That will no longer be tolerated by the taxpayers. >> > Guess >> > who have to suffer? Us, the municipal employees. >> > >> >> >> The Badges Law Enforcement Discussion Group - Est. 1997 >> > > > The Badges Law Enforcement Discussion Group - Est. 1997 > The Badges Law Enforcement Discussion Group - Est. 1997