I said it was not a nationwide carry PERMIT. It is a federal law that states that certain persons are exempt, in limited circumstances, from certain state firearms laws when that person has complied with the requirements of the federal statute. It does not create a "permit" but creates an exemption to certain state laws. Note that in states that permit businesses for example, to prohibit firearms, if you are carrying under HR-218, you must comply with that requirement. Also, you cannot carry where a state prohibits carrying on government property. So legally it is an exemption. To answer Chris, in the South Dakota case, the Judge deemed the use of force by the officers as justifiable use of force, and acknowledged that HR-218 permitted the Seattle officer to carry in SD. Therefore he dismissed the charge. As an aside, the Judge did not dismiss the CCW charge against the fireman, and I havent followed up to see whatever happened to that case. Howard From: "Charles Rahn" <c.t.rahn@xxxxxxxx> > We sure see it as a nationwide carry permit. The law gives us the > authority to carry nationwide providing we meet the minimum qualifications > set forth by law. We have to qualify at least once a year and have an ID > card that indicates that we did. > What do you mean when you say it was not intended to be a nationwide > carry? > Gator > >> From: hmellon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> To: badges@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: Badges - Re: Carry >> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 00:52:56 -0400 >> >> To clarify so people remember what it is. HR-218 is an exemption for >> qualified serving and retired LE from state laws regarding carrying of >> firearms. It is a limited exemption. It is not and was not intended to >> be >> a "nationwide carry permit." >> >> Comment made since a lot of people are becoming very cavalier about what >> they think they have to do to maintain that exemption, and well, none of >> us >> want to be the test case. >> >> Howard >> >> > > Badges Law Enforcement Discussion Group - Est. 1997 > Badges Law Enforcement Discussion Group - Est. 1997