[badgerstatevolunteers] Re: Leaders
- From: lomax <chac2ook@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: badgerstatevolunteers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 10:46:49 -0600
I'm having a problem however spelling our group "howl" something
like;...oooooooharrrrrgh!!!!!
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:44 AM, lomax <chac2ook@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I'm doing an SOP for meeting "structure" that we can chew on at the next
> meet.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Shawn Wilkerson <tatz1977@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> I'll help too. As for the leader stuff we can about it at th next
>> meet..
>>
>>
>> --- On *Fri, 3/11/11, kevin Joyner <joynerkev@xxxxxxxxx>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: kevin Joyner <joynerkev@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [badgerstatevolunteers] Re: Leaders
>>
>> To: badgerstatevolunteers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Cc: "lomax" <chac2ook@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 10:27 AM
>>
>>
>> I would be glad to help too. Actually I would almost require it.
>> Otherwise I would feel like a freeloader.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:22 AM, lomax
>> <chac2ook@xxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc1617.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=chac2ook@xxxxxxxxx>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> Hey, I,m not apposed to helping out on the farm to show my gratittude, let
>> me know if y'all need some help with something. Does he plant, that would be
>> an awesome meeting and we could help grampa out at the same time. We talk
>> alot about growing and that it takes about an acre per person to survive,
>> has anyone ever actually planted an acre of land? It's a bit different than
>> a backyard garden.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Nathan C Golding
>> <goldingn@xxxxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc1617.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=goldingn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > wrote:
>>
>> I have not asked my Grandpa yet about camping on his farm. I was planning
>> on doing it on the 18 or the 19 of this month when I would be visiting him
>> and helping him cut down trees along his fence line. I am 99% sure we would
>> let us camp on his land for a night or two it is just a mater of what we can
>> do on it and what date. I will let you know ASAP what he says.
>>
>> Boy Scout
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "kevin Joyner"
>> <joynerkev@xxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc1617.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=joynerkev@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >
>> To:
>> badgerstatevolunteers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc1617.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=badgerstatevolunteers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Cc: "lomax"
>> <chac2ook@xxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc1617.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=chac2ook@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >
>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 9:21:20 AM
>> Subject: [badgerstatevolunteers] Re: Leaders
>>
>> Exactly Lomax. When I was doing almost everything in this group it worked
>> pretty good until I had work stuff come up that put me out for a couple of
>> months. When I came back the group had gone dead and nothing at all
>> happened in my absence. There wasn't even internet chatter. Spike, what you
>> need to do is to wrap your head around this concept to which you are not
>> familiar and figure it out. You have tunnel vision when it comes to your
>> concepts which isn't the worst thing in many cases but gets really
>> counterproductive when you keep harping and insisting on it. There is a
>> reason we keep shooting it down. First of all because we have witnessed the
>> failure. Second because as Lomax has suggested, people easily become
>> dependent upon a leader. We are a GROUP who teaches INDEPENDENCE as well as
>> being able to work with a group cohesively. Not how to follow and become
>> dependent upon a leader. What we are doing is not like everything else. WE
>> DO NOT NEED A POTATO!!! I for one am finished playing hot potato. There,
>> whew! Somebody get me a shot of whiskey, a punching bag (socialists and
>> commies count), and a ticket to some place warm. I need a vacation! Haha
>>
>> Okay so since you brought it up
>> We have had Google, WRAM, Facebook, cell phone, tri square, and designs to
>> move to VHF for weeks now and still not everyone is up to speed.
>> This is a financial issue plain and simple and doesn't require a consensus
>> or a committee to figure that out. Personally I'm saving up for mine and
>> that's about the best we can do. We can't force anyone to do this. I have
>> done the research that was supposed to have been done and have the topic
>> ready for discussion at the next meeting.
>>
>> For example: I do not know who can or cannot get into Google.
>> Go to the google group and look to see who is a member of the group.
>> Problem solved, no committee needed. You already knew that the google
>> group was invitation only because it was discussed.
>>
>> Who are the web people and is there a back up plan? Who do I pose these
>> questions to? I know lets call them a potato.
>> Why should you pose your question to just one person? We have these
>> groups for a reason. Oddly enough, that's why they are called groups. If
>> you wish to address an individual then you have their email address phone
>> number ect... If you don't then ask them for it. They'll give it to you if
>> they want you to have it. Everyone in this group has a pretty broad array
>> of knowledge to be shared. It would be a shame to narrow it down to just
>> one answer from one person.
>>
>> "How many times have we turned around because of going the wrong way?"
>> Well not that many times, twice I think. The first time I let you figure
>> it out because you needed to learn it. I even mentioned it to someone as we
>> were walking that we were probably going the wrong way. But that's how hard
>> lessons are learned and now is the time to learn them when we have the
>> luxury of doing so without necessity. Sounds like you learned something
>> there so it's a winner. We also got some much needed exercise out of the
>> deal. Another win!
>> The second time didn't really count. It was just an oops my bad while we
>> were heading out to McMiller. He knew how to get there already, it was just
>> human error.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 7:50 AM, lomax <
>> chac2ook@xxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc1617.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=chac2ook@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> LOL....ok french fry, consensus is a good thing, I think the leadership
>> concept, more than anything else releases the rest of the group from
>> critical thinking and people will have a tendancy to wait for the leader to
>> start some thing up. The structure concept for the meetings however is easy.
>> Anyone can set a topic for the meeting, each person that comes up with a
>> topic brings their concerns and research to the meeting and takes the lead
>> in the discussion. Personally Spike, I'm not sure what you're looking for,
>> are you looking for someone to give directives? Make assignments? We seem to
>> be moving in the right direction. So far in review, as a group we have
>> chosen and tested close quarter coms, field tested a variety of gear and
>> have decided which works best, ie; GI sleep system vs Walmart Sleeping bag.
>> We've tried a variety of foods, cooking and hydration systems, and have a
>> couple of range outings under our belts. We have decided on one firm bivy
>> point and have 2 or 3 more potential sites pending, I repeat, as a group,
>> without a Potato. Right now X is working on an SOP for future outings and
>> such and for the next meeting we can discuss an SOP for meeting structure. I
>> prefer a leaderless system only because it eliminates pissing contests and
>> because everyone has something to bring to the table and should be able to
>> take the lead in their area of expertise. Boy Scout, have you asked your
>> Grampa about us camping out on his land? Just curious.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 2:45 AM, Joe <
>> virtualadonis@xxxxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc1617.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=virtualadonis@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I say leader you say potato. WTF
>>
>> Everyone here gets what I am saying.
>>
>> I am vary pleased with the leaps our communications has made since my
>> first meeting. We have had Google, WRAM, Facebook, cell phone, tri square,
>> and designs to move to VHF for weeks now and still not everyone is up to
>> speed. For example: I do not know who can or cannot get into Google. We
>> should all be involved in setting those rules. No? Who are the web people
>> and is there a back up plan? Who do I pose these questions to? I know lets
>> call them a potato.
>>
>> How many times have we turned around because of going the wrong way?
>>
>> Please don’t just answer here. Lets talk and make decision through
>> consensus.
>>
>>
>> Structure is all we are missing. Whatever you want to call it “potato”
>> needs to happen for us to be successful.
>>
>> The structuring of the group should be the topic of the next meeting.
>>
>> Is that to much to ask? LMAO By the way; some of us could stand to drop
>> and blast out 20. So get to it! Up down one. Up down two...
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> freeman lomax
>> www.1revolutionnow.com
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Kevin J
>> ====================
>> “Far Better it is to Dare Mighty Things than to take rank with those poor,
>> timid spirits Who know Neither Victory nor Defeat.”
>> Theodore Roosevelt
>>
>> "I was not delivered unto this world in defeat,
>> nor does failure course in my veins. I am not a
>> sheep waiting to be prodded by my shepherd. I
>> am a lion and I refuse to talk, to walk, to sleep
>> with the sheep. I will hear not those who weep
>> and complain, for their disease is contagious. Let
>> them join the sheep. The slaughterhouse of failure
>> is not my destiny.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> **
>> *freeman lomax*
>> *www.1revolutionnow.com*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>> Kevin J
>> ====================
>> “Far Better it is to Dare Mighty Things than to take rank with those poor,
>> timid spirits Who know Neither Victory nor Defeat.”
>> Theodore Roosevelt
>>
>> "I was not delivered unto this world in defeat,
>> nor does failure course in my veins. I am not a
>> sheep waiting to be prodded by my shepherd. I
>> am a lion and I refuse to talk, to walk, to sleep
>> with the sheep. I will hear not those who weep
>> and complain, for their disease is contagious. Let
>> them join the sheep. The slaughterhouse of failure
>> is not my destiny.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> *freeman lomax*
> *www.1revolutionnow.com*
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