My good old e65 has finally kicked the bucket which is a real pity, because the only way of fixing it now is on ebay and no thanks not going there. Tried everything over the last 3 days to get it working again, but it has departed for tech heaven and won't work at all now. Shame, it was a good phone nearly 1000 ring tones gone which I saved on my Mac fortunately, but when trying to put them on the iphone, no good either. Well, need 2 phones one for business purposes, will now have to look at n86 or something like that, don't want a second iphone, because I want to wait until apple releases version 4 before considering whether I keep the iphone or not for the future. To Leave bactttoma send an email to: bactttoma-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx With "unsubscribe" in the subject or body of the message (without the quotes). Use "subscribe" instead if you want to re-subscribe to bactttoma. Use "info" to get your welcome message again or use "faq" to get the FAQ with the list guidelines in detail. These requests will give you more information on other commands like setting digest and vacation modes. To post to bactttoma, send email to: bactttoma@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Replies to emails on this list will go to the whole list by default. General information about bactttoma, ways to join, leave and set options is at: //www.freelists.org/list/bactttoma To contact the bactttoma moderators, send email to: steven_taylor10@xxxxxxxxxxx