You would think that engineers would adhere to the KISS principle. I think the reasoning is that by using the reverse offset, they avoid having to deal with negative numbers, at least for the largest segment of their markets. Although I'd think that for people smart enough to program these things, dealing with a negative would be awfully simple. If they think they are making easy on the EU by not having to them think about negatives, They should consider that a simple mention in the Destructions that "ALL TIME ZONES in North America are Minus". Of course this presumes the EU will actually read the destructions. Enough ranting, I gotta deal with time zone illiterates all day at work: I need my package in Honk Kong by 0800 tomorrow morning. It usually comes as a surprise that that is only 4 hours away. Rant mode off Rick Tejera President Editor SACnews Saguaro Astronomy Club Phoenix, Arizona saguaroastro@xxxxxxx www.saguaroastro.org -----Original Message----- From: az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of gene lucas Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 4:55 AM To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: telescope troubles Steve, Depends upon which way you are converting. MST = UT minus 7 hours. So, to change MST - TO - UT, you would ADD 7 hours. UT = MST PLUS 7 hours. To wrap your head around this problem (not the other end...) or inotherwords, "do a sanity check"... It is already daylight (and nearly lunch time) in London (as I write this at near five am, Phoenix time.) Gene (17250) Steve Coe wrote: >AJ; > >I just saw something while I was fooling around with a Moonrise >program. I think you had the time zone set to MINUS 7 and it is PLUS >7. The question to answer is what number would you have to change your >local time to UT. I think we were doing that math backward. At least >that is how two different pieces of software I use do it. The value is >positive in both of these programs. > >Could it be that simple??? > >Steve > >-- >See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and >please send personal replies to the author, not the list. > > > > -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list. -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.