Here is another possible strategy (plan F): she talks with her neighbors about this and stirs them up to approach the city Council as a group. This may be a very effective strategy, especially if the city Council has agreed to give the construction company a break on their security lighting by using the ballpark lights as security lighting for the construction company. Richard Harshaw Cave Creek, AZ "Remember: your mind works faster than you think." -----Original Message----- From: az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dan Heim Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 12:25 PM To: AZ Observing Subject: [AZ-Observing] more about those lights After Richard's and Stan's comments, I guess I need to expand on the details. Yes, that is an athletic field in that photo, so one might well expect to see metal halides in use there for improved color rendition. But according to the complainant, these additional banks were installed to provide "security" for construction materials (copper wire, etc.) stored in an area nearby. Presumably, the construction company that is building out this subdivision figured the lights would be less expensive than truly secure storage or hiring guards. And yes, I know a municipality can overrule the county on lighting ordinances. That's what Phoenix did with electronic billboards. But they cannot overrule the ARS. And ARS 49-7 states that even at athletic facilities, the lights have to go off between midnight and dawn. These are on all night, dusk to dawn. -Dan Heim -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list. -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.