Hi Steve (Coe), I didn't adequately explain myself today about why the little Infinity UTI 8" dob is likely to retain a place in my telescopic arsenal of two, notwithstanding the arrival of the NP101. The basic reason is I am lazy. It is so much easier to view objects higher in the sky with a dob than it is to go thru the strained gyrations necessary to view such objects with a refractor on a Gibraltar mount. In fact, I believe my usage pattern -- once I settle down -- will be to set up both and use the refractor for the lower half of the sky and the little dob for objects above that. I just won't stand on my head to look at stuff and my star chair -- which I cannot take on board my sailboat -- only goes so low anyway. Without that, I would be squatting or bending far too much, and so the need for the dob for the higher reaches.How's that for lazy, but realistic. Such was a part of my thinking in coupling those two scopes for travel. I just upgraded the TV-85 to the NP101 when I figured out there is only 6" difference in length, three or so pounds, in weight, and, like the TV-85, Televue makes a compact soft carry case for the NP101. But as we agreed, time will tell. So far, I am very found of both scopes, in part because they are little and light and have decent optics. In fact, as I mentioned, I did not expect such an improvement in the center sharpness of the NP101 over the TV-85. It was noticeable without a side by side comparison. The Denk II binoviewer and the 24mm Panoptics and 7mm Naglers, on the other hand, are a renewed experiment for me which I may or may not abandon. In light of the experiences of some others, I need to give binoviewing a better shake than I did with the TV binoviewer. However, out of the box I did not like the TV unit nearly as much as the Denk II. We'll see there. I may, like you, revert to being a cyclops. Again, time will tell. What is nice about buying good used equipment at a decent price is you can play with it, and if it is not for you, then sell it at about the same price if you have taken good care of it. It's like a bunch of kids trading their toys. Kimball -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.