OK, since Tom alluded to it in this thread, I've just finished uploading onto my PBase site a few charts based upon my original analysis of Brian Skiff's Flagstaff cloudiness data. I used Brian's nightly data from January 1980 thru June 2004 and for these purposes the general conclusions should be more-or-less consistent with Phoenix, Prescott, Grand Canyon, etc. The punchline is that there are small differences in cloudiness by day (night) of week, but obviously nothing statistically significant...the data for all the nights are well within two sigma of the mean. When I showed the charts at the astro club meetings back around 1996, I only had 17 years of data or so. Back then, Wednesday won out. Well, with 24.5 years of data crunched, Wednesday still reigns as the best night overall. Again, there's nothing statistically different about Wed or any other night, but useful in bar bets. Of course, if you're betting about this kind of stuff in a bar, you have bigger problems than clouds ruining your observing weekend. I also uploaded to the site a pie chart breakdown by sky condition [photometric (clear), partial, spectroscopic, and cloudy]. Check Brian's site for an explanation of each. It's been over three years since I've been able to get back to entering and re-analyzing Brian's data, but I'm about due. It would be rather easy to check if for the last year we've had abnormal cloudiness for Fri and Sat nights. I'm not doing it tonight though. The charts are at the following link: http://www.pbase.com/bsanden/flagstaff_cloudiness Now go win some bets, Bernie -----Original Message----- From: az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tom Polakis Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:53 AM To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: Weather in AZ While my data reduction only uses the monthly summaries, Brian's data in its raw form does indeed include the dates all the way back to 1980. One could use it to figure out what the New Moon or weekend cloudiness looks like. Bernie Sanden did exactly that quite a few years back, using Brian's actual calendar pages and meticulously entering the days of the week in a spreadsheet. If I recall correctly, he facetiously presented that Wednesday nights or something were the clearest. Of course they were the clearest within hundredths of a percent, but by exaggerating the scale on the plot, he came up with something that was worthy of a pointless USA Today chart: "Numbers Show That We're Observing Less!" I think he also analyzed the "Full Moon clearing" phenomenon. Tom -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.