[AZ-Observing] Re: The Meade Mount
- From: "Jimmy Ray" <jimmy_ray@xxxxxxx>
- To: <az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 15:16:17 -0700
For you Thomas, you bet. But I wouldn't worry about causing any kind of
"ruckus". Isn't a discussion board for the free exchange of idea's,
thoughts, questions and answers.(plus the sharing of cool object's in the
sky and observations ;-)? Besides it looks like it's all settled before hand
and AJ won't have to worry about much at the meeting except trying to get us
to turn in our liability waivers! (and I think I just took care of that for
him). See you there..
Jimmy Ray
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From: az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Stars
Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 3:06 PM
To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: The Meade Mount
Randy and all
My type of Astigmatism is caused because shape of my cornea is not curved
correctly. I asked my eye doctor about buying a lens that has a certain
astigmatism rating if it would work for me, and what power of astigmatism I
would need. He told me that my astigmatism is not constant across my cornea
and a fixed astigmatism would not work. I would have to have a special made
adapter, and I don't I don't know if Televue would make a lens to my
prescription. If they did, I possibly could not afford it.
Thanks you very much for the suggestion anyway.
Like I said, I will use two scopes piggybacked at the MM. One with a
camera, and one with a lens. Hopefully I can see the fainter MM's with the
lens, if not, owe well, I can still enjoy them from the camera. I do this
for the enjoyment, not the awards or recognition. If I can see them through
the lens then great, but it sure will not break my heart if not. I know my
limitations, and do what is necessary to work around them.
I sure apologize to AJ and every one at SAC for getting this started. That
was not my intension. I just did not read the rules good enough. You guys
are great, I have learned so much from you all, and expect to keep learning.
Hopefully in the future I can be of assistance in setting up and arranging
these events. I know that there is a lot of work for the people to do in
arranging these events, and not enough time in the day to get it all done.
So maybe next year I can help and take a little load off of you hard working
astronomers.
Please everyone let this drop on my account.
Sincerely
Thomas Hilton
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From: Randy Peterson [mailto:rgpeterson@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 03/03/2006 11:56 PM
To: stars@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [AZ-Observing] Re: The Meade Mount
Tom, just wondering, have you thought about trying the new lenses that
Televue has come out with recently? The way I understand it, you can take
your glasses off, use the correct diaopter for your particular level of
astigmatism, and then adjust the focus to compensate for your eyeglass
magnification. I'm curious - if you decide to pursue it further, how it
works out for you (I am fortunate enough to not have astigmatism, even
though I wear eyeglasses).
More info at:
http://www.telescopes.net/televue_dioptrx_astigmatism_co.html
Randy Peterson
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From: "Stars" <stars@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 11:42 AM
Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: The Meade Mount
OK, I Give up, did not mean to get this mess started, I will do my best.
I will put a video camera on one of the telescopes on my mount and look at
the video screen so that I can enjoy what the MM's look like without all the
astigmatism that I have without my glasses. I cannot see through the
eyepieces with my glasses on very well, even with the long relief eye pieces
I own. I will also look at it with the telescope eye peace, without my
glasses. That should satisfy the rules, and also allow me to enjoy the
beautiful sites to see. Maybe I will even put a recorder on the video
camera so that I can bring back the result and show my family.
That should be a win-win situation.
So may we close this subject and use SAC's rules
Sincerely
Thomas Hilton
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From: az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Wiles
Sent: 03/03/2006 11:12 AM
To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: The Meade Mount
I would also like to see a category for the TRUE marathoners - like me.
Observe one Messier object each year at the Arizona City site for the next
110 years to get your plaque. :-). To be fair, this category should also
have its own subcategory for people doing this ultra-marathon with a go-to
scope.
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From: az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:az-observing-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of jimmy_ray@xxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 9:37 AM
To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: The Meade Mount
The Goto issue was the "can of worms" that came to mind for me also. I have
a "Goto" which I personally don't feel requires the same level of hunting
skill that the guy who star hops has. I could see categories of competition
but where to draw the lines? What if a person has no scope but naked eyes a
dozen or better objects, which would be amazing wouldn't it? Uses binoculars
of "x" power or less? In competitive free flight modeling we had many
categories of competition, the goal was the same, "stay up for "x" amount of
time but, because of performance, power plant, and size, competition had to
be broken down to specific categories. Where one runs into trouble with
using eyesight is it is subjective. I wear glasses so I should be able to
compete in the electronic assisted category, as I'm visually impaired,
right? Well, I'm very far sighted, in fact my vision is actually 20/15,
which means I could probably kick butt in the "naked eye category" but I
wear glasses because my arm
s are too short for me to read something I'm holding in front of me. So is
it really a category for visually impaired or is it a category that all the
e-photon guys compete in? I like the idea of been able to pick a category,
sharpen my skills for it, and try my best against others using the same
limitations, I also am a big fan of tradition. I think some "experimental'
categories could help answer this question (it works for the Olympics).
Jimmy Ray
>
> From: Jeff Hopkins <phxjeff@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 2006/03/03 Fri AM 08:00:27 PST
> To: az-observing@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [AZ-Observing] Re: The Meade Mount
>
> Sounds like a good idea.
>
> While it makes sense it does complicate things and then opens the
> door for still other categories. e,g., GOTO Scopes, Setting Circle
> Scopes, Basic Alt/AZ Mode Scopes (DOBs and such). It is my
> understanding that the event gets larger each years and if so may
> warrant consideration of extending categories. Each has its own and
> different challenges.
>
> Jeff
>
> At 08:11 -0700 3/3/06, Stan Gorodenski wrote:
> >Stars wrote:
> >
> >>Jack I completely understand, and would give anything if I could see the
> >>dark skys as good as most. I can't so I will just have to do the best I
can
> >>to see the sky's. That what I am out there to do. Maybe a separate
reward
> >>system for astrophotography, or using a video screen as long as you are
> >>within say 25 ft of the telescope.
> >>
> >
> >This sounds like a reasonable extension of the MM. Actually, a good
> >idea. It would trail blaze the MM to more than what it currently is.
> >Stan
> >
> >>That would be fair for us visually
> >>handicapped people.
>
> --
> Jeff Hopkins
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> Hopkins Phoenix Observatory
> 7812 West Clayton Drive
> Phoenix, Arizona 85033-2439 U.S.A.
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