Yes, you are talking about regular (real) observing, making notes and drawings (and discoveries). Marathon is a whole different animal. As AJ says, it's an individual thing. Two people could see the same thing and one check it off and the other not. All you need do is find it, see it in the eyepiece and check it off. We could question someone's bleary-eyed seeing of M30 way low in the morning twilight after staying up all night but his/hers is the final say. It's the honor system in that regard and so far we have received no objects checked off that have strained credibility or been too near, at, or below the horizon. Jack Jones Saguaro Astronomy Club Public Events Lunar List Awards and Messier Marathon Co-coordinator Phoenix AZ spicastar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Is the objective to find the object or to find it and actually see > something that can be described other than I think I see a smudge? > Does pointing the telescope at the object constitute having found it? > As Brian said, I think the true meaning of having observed the object > is having seen something similar to what Messier saw. > > Sure, it's a lot of fun and I'm envious because my eyesight is not as > good as it used to be and I am unlikely to ever succeed. My hats off > to all that who "really" observed the objects. To the others (if any) > well at least you had fun and probably learned some things. > > Jeff -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.