Frank, I experience the same type of conditions from my backyard in Gilbert. Most nights I can easily reach 400x with no image breakdown, and 500x + is about the same as your area - about 60% of the time. Kerry Frank Kraljic wrote:. Adding to my spoiled bias, I have also been fortunate to live in area of Scottsdale that apparently produces good seeing on the order of 400-560x sixty percent of the time. FRANK --- This message is from the AZ-Observing mailing list. If you wish to be removed from this list, send E-mail to: AZ-Observing-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, with the subject: unsubscribe. The list's archive is at: //www.freelists.org/archives/az-observing This is a discussion list. Please send personal inquiries directly to the message author. In other words, do not use "reply" for personal messages. Thanks.