Tom Polakis wrote: > I have been limited in my 10-inch and 20-inch scopes to a magnification of > less than 150x until the images become painful to look at. ... > I hope Frank Kraljic has more to say about this, as he is even more > finicky about seeing than I am. Sad to admit, my enthusiasm for Sunglow has waned over the past year. I suppose cloudy nights add to my disappointment, but as Tom mentioned, consistent poor seeing is painful to observe through. I can only recall three maybe four nights of quality (400-500x plus) seeing; however, three of those four nights lasting just more than an hour's time. Perhaps I'm spoiled, taking our skies and weather for granted--by God, I'd probably quit the hobby if I lived out east--yet, I take pride in saying, seeing below 250x is worth very little of my serious time, regardless of transparency. In the case with Sunglow, most "serious" observing is left by wayside in exchange for thumbing through Wil Tirion for bright, low power objects. More often than I care to admit--which is in line with Tom's experience (over 20 nights logged at Sunglow)--150 to 175x is the typical extent of Sunglow's seeing. Ugh. > This says nothing about transparency or darkness, which are as > good as it can be not only in the United States but on the= > planet. Go to Outback Australia, and it won't be any darker > than Sunglow at the zenith. And the transparency won't be = > as good as Sunglow, since you won't find many places at 5000 > feet, which is ideal for my tastes. Having witnessed the skies from the "accessible" Outback in Australia, Tom is a hundred percent correct. The question I ask myself now is, will I continue to visit and observe from Sunglow? Yes. As finicky as I am about seeing, I do recognize the merits of a dark, transparent sky. I can only hope for those occasional nights of, as Mike Mello puts it, "silly power." I do believe, however, there are locations in the Chiricahua/Pearce vicinity of great transparency and seeing... the ideal location. But, it sure is nice to have a warm room and bed (for day use), two minutes walk from the observing field, and fresh baked cookies with hot chocolate almost every night. -FRANK --- This message is from the AZ-Observing mailing list. If you wish to be removed from this list, send E-mail to: AZ-Observing-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, with the subject: unsubscribe. The list's archive is at: //www.freelists.org/archives/az-observing This is a discussion list. Please send personal inquiries directly to the message author. In other words, do not use "reply" for personal messages. Thanks.