Hey All, Well, the sky looked blue, so I went. On the way, I notice a "cloud" in the general direction of Sentinel, and for a second, my heart dropped. I turned out to be some sort of grass fire. The atmosphere was so steady that this thing just sort of hovered there. Even at 2am Sunday, this cloud was still a kind of "dark nebula" sitting in front of the Phx lite dome. For the most part, the seeing was in the 7~8 of 10 range, with moments of 9's and 10's. Around 12 there was a while of 5's and 6's, but it seemed short lived. Transparancy was 8.5/10. I picked off what NGC's I had left for this season, including 7331. I was able to just make out 2 of it's fainter companions. I then jumped down to Stephen's Quintet and while I couldn't pinpoint them, I was just able to make out possibly 3 of the 5 through my 8" f/6. Another one was the "non-existant" NGC7133. 7133 doesn't exist according to the NGC/IC site, but yet it is plotted in most atlases. However, the coordiantes of 7129 point to where 7133 is plotted. (In other words, apparently the "cluster" 7129 and the "nebulosity" 7133 are the same object) Anyhow, if you find the field, 7129/33 is the patch of 3 stars surrounded by a faint nebulosity. Find the "L" shaped asterism, and it's right on the corner of it. Many, Many thanks to the Pest for the quick loan of Night Sky Observer's Guide. (I needed the pic in the book to verify what I was looking at.) Saturn was a great showpiece this night. The rings were just not quite tilted enough to see the Cassini division all the way around. Cassini's division was visible nearly 100% of the time. About 25% of the time, Encke's division was visible. Otherwise, it just added a slightly grey hue to the outer rings. The ball itself was slightly banded with the familiar mocha colors on top of a creme surface, not the banana yellow I've seen in the past. But the most interesting details were an odd coloration of the inner rings nearest to the plane'ts limbs. They appeared to be a rusty-grey color. Is this a "refracted" light effect from the planet's surface? Never saw any spokes..... Winding down around 2am I turned the binos to Cynus and was able to make out the N. American and Pelican Neb pretty much in the same FOV in the 10x50's. I was also able to make out the entire Veil complex in the same FOV. Neither one showed up naked eye with the UHC filter, but both showed in the 'nocs easily. A year ago, I wouldn't have been able to do this, or known to use binos. Practice, Practice, Practice. And of course good advise from those doing it for many more years than myself. A worthwhile, peaceful divergance from an otherwise mad world. Thad Thad Robosson starstarcracker@xxxxxxxxx SAC Member, ATM subgroup Chairman, Double star enthusiast Phoenix, Arizona, USA 112 08.03W, 33 32.67N The use of your "delete" key is authorized. --- This message is from the AZ-Observing mailing list. If you wish to be removed from this list, send E-mail to: AZ-Observing-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, with the subject: unsubscribe. The list's archive is at: //www.freelists.org/archives/az-observing This is a discussion list. Please send personal inquiries directly to the message author. In other words, do not use "reply" for personal messages. Thanks.